_It's_not_easy_being_Green_



Steve Ouellette bosox18 at charter.net
Sun Jan 28 18:06:31 CST 2007


I think I disagree with almost everything Ryan says :-) Gasol is not a 
great defender either, and Al is a better shot blocker, and as good or 
better in the low post and on the glass. Yes, Gasol is clearly a better 
player right now, but not by a huge amount. Al very well may never get 
there, but he is gaining.

And if you said Al and Gasol could split the 4 and 5 spots I would buy 
it, but there's no way Gasol plays the 3. He get telfaired on defense 
every night.

Steve O



ryan nelson wrote:
> Jefferson is nowhere near the ball handler, passer, or defender gasol
> is.  It could work by having Gasol dominate the 3 spot and letting Al
> clog up the inside.  Alternatively, jefferson could try guarding a 3
> since he is so inept at his baseline defense.
>
> And as for Al eventually being better than Gasol, I would be shocked.
> Jefferson is one dimensional at best.
>
> rmn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
> Behalf Of Mark Piotrowski
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:26 PM
> To: celtics at igtc.com
> Subject: RE:_It's_not_easy_being_Green_
>
> i was gonna write that i was shocked at the number of folks thinking 
> Pierce for Gasol is an improvemet (rather than lateral move).  And i 
> like Gasol, but i disagree that he's BETTER than Pierce.  At best his 
> equal and i think a small notch below.
>
> But i'll entertain that it could be a Stackhouse-Hamilton type deal. 
>
> However --- how woudl Gasol and Jefferson fit?  Seems to me they're 
> both low post guys.  Would Gasol stand in the way of Big Al's 
> development (i think Jefferson will be better than Gasol eventually) 
> and would Pierce therefore be the better fit with our franchise 
> cornerstone?
>
> Wonder what y'all think....
>
> (the other) mark
>
>
> --------
> Memphis was 49-33 with a healthy gasol last year in a tough western
> division.  A 26 year old 7-footer just getting into his prime, who was
> also the mvp of the world tournament, is much more valuable than a 29
> year old 2 guard/small forward who has hit his ceiling. 
>
> Pierce + something other than our #1 for gasol (not sure if the $s work)
> would then give us maybe oden/Durant + gasol and al j if we don't have
> to include him in the deal.  I would take that front court any day. 
>
> rmn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Jaycelt58 at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:24 PM
> To: celtics at igtc.com
> Subject: Re:It's not easy being Green
>
>
> QUESTION: Have any of you who are so willing to trade Pierce
> for  Gasol considered just how pitifully our 1 to 4 yr. players
> have performed  overall WITHOUT Pierce,   and just how pitifully
> Memphis has  performed WITH Gasol.    I see desperation among
> our  listees... as in any trade including Pierce will be good
> for us.   
>
>
>
>
>
> Eggcentric, the voice of reason?  Who would have ever thunk?
>
> Truth is the Grizzlies have almost the same record with Gasol (6-16) as
> they
> have without (5-18). 
> And one of those losses with Gasol was to the Pierceless Celtics,  one
> of the
> only two wins this group has without Pierce.  Just how that  would lead
> anyone to the conclusion that this group of Celtics would be better
> with Gasol
> instead of Pierce I have no idea.
> Yes, there is the legitimate argument that an all-star big is more
> valuable 
> than an all-star swingman, but Gasol doesn't play like your  standard
> big.  He
> plays much smaller than your textbook 7  footer. 
>
> If we can get Gasol without giving up Pierce, that's fine.  I don't  see
> the
> addition of Gasol at the expense of Pierce as an upgrade at  all.
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