The devil made him do it
Berry, Mark S
berrym at BATTELLE.ORG
Mon Feb 5 09:49:09 CST 2007
This is fine, except Ainge's quote was taken out of context. He
indicated he thought he'd deal some of the kids for a veteran last
summer -- and he came very close on draft night with Iverson (Philly
pulled out), and he came close again last month on Iverson. And by all
accounts, he's heavily in the mix for Gasol.
May is implying -- hell, he's saying it -- that the team on the floor is
one Ainge is holding up as the finished product. Obviously it's not.
Setting aside the injuries for a second (as if that's even possible),
it's clear the plan isn't just to let these kids grow together. He
obviously wants to package some of them for an impact player. Now ...
how many of those have changed teams since last season? It takes two to
tango.
There is a very real question as to whether or not Ainge can pull off
this kind of deal. But it's clear to everyone -- except Peter May,
apparently -- that he's trying.
Mark
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< In an interview with Chad Ford of ESPN, Ainge actually said, "I never
really envisioned having this many young players on the team at once."
Huh? He drafted them. He traded for them. If he didn't envision it,
who did? > - Peter May
< There are a lot of people in the NBA who like some of the Celtics'
young players, but not as much as the Celtics like them. The widely
held view on most of them is that they'd be serviceable reserves on
a good team. > - Peter May
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Oh boy, this one's on Danny
Ainge deserves blame for failures of Celtics
By Peter May | February 4, 2007
When Ryan Gomes was not picked to play on the nine-man, second-year
team for a game against the top rookies during All-Star Weekend, Doc
Rivers offered the following explanation: "Our record [bad word]."
Yes, it does. And so does his team.
The coach doesn't (bad word), although you'd think he's the spawn of the
devil by some of the things you read. No, he's not going to Springfield
as
a coach, but he's not Roy Rubin II, either. The players, individually,
don't
(bad word). In fact, we've seen some positive signs in all this mess.
It's
the amalgamation that has become the 2006-07 Celtics that (bad word).
And that is on Danny Ainge.
He has assembled this team and it was pretty clear even before Paul
Pierce
went down that it was flawed. (It was 10-14 after the Dec. 20 loss to
Golden
State, playing the league's easiest schedule.) Pierce's injury not only
underscores his value to this team, it has shown that what remains
simply cannot get
the job done on any reasonable basis (like, for instance, a single win
in a
month).
I found it amazing to read a remark by Ainge this past week before he
went to
China. In an interview with Chad Ford of ESPN, Ainge actually said, "I
never
really envisioned having this many young players on the team at once."
Huh? He
drafted them. He traded for them. If he didn't envision it, who did?
The team he has constructed and given to Rivers has been unable to win
on any
consistent basis. The players he has given to Rivers have shown they can
play
in the NBA, some better than others. But thrown together, there is
simply too
much callowness and not enough savvy. It's a doomed experiment. There's
no
history of young players growing together, maturing together, taking
their lumps
together, and, at last, winning together. The Bulls tried that after
Michael
left.
Right now, Celtics fans can see Al Jefferson putting up nice numbers,
which
he is doing. Delonte West is showing a toughness the team sorely needs.
Gomes
is a rock. Tony Allen appeared to be coming into his own before his
injury.
Rajon Rondo shows promise. Gerald Green can be entertaining and,
occasionally,
effective. But Green, Gomes, and Rondo were not chosen to play in Las
Vegas at
the Rookie-Sophomore game -- and it wasn't just because the Celtics'
record
(bad word). Charlotte has two players in the game. The Trail Blazers,
Knicks, and
Grizzlies each have a representative. Their records (bad word).
There are a lot of people in the NBA who like some of the Celtics' young
players, but not as much as the Celtics like them. The widely held view
on most of
them is that they'd be serviceable reserves on a good team. (Pau Gasol
doesn't want to come here, for instance.) How do you win with that kind
of team?
Yes, you could parachute Gomes or West onto the Spurs and my guess is
that San
Antonio wouldn't suffer at all. And that is part of the problem going
forward,
because when (or if) Ainge does deal any of these guys, they're likely
going to
prosper in their new environment, if for no other reason than they won't
be
playing with each other anymore.
And Bob Lobel will be saying, "Why can't we get players like that?"
This was supposed to be the season the kids made it or didn't. Yes,
injuries
have derailed the plan, but injuries happen to every team. Rick Carlisle
lost
his three best players for more than a month -- one for the year -- and
still
managed to get the Pacers into the playoffs in 2005. But this situation
has
spun so out of control now that the prevailing questions are (a) Why
bring
Pierce back at all? and (b) Greg Oden or Kevin Durant? And there still
is almost
half a season remaining.
I don't know what Ainge has in mind in the weeks leading up to the
trading
deadline. I would guess he is loath to do much of anything that would
improve
the team to the point where it wins just enough not to get a legitimate
shot at
Oden or Durant (assuming they come out). But at some point he needs to
identify two or three of these guys as keepers and trade the rest,
understanding --
and not caring -- that the ones he lets go may flourish in their new
surroundings. Let's see what these chips that Ainge says he now has are
worth.
As West put it on media day, "Once you've checked into the NBA, it's
man-up
time. Who needs to have their hand held? Who needs to be in the young
category?
Go get in the kiddie pool. It's adult swim, you know what I mean?"
We do.
Stealing his memories
More than a few eyebrows were raised recently when a 1984 NBA
championship
ring belonging to former Celtics owner Don Gaston popped up on eBay with
an
asking price of $25,000. An e-mail to the seller revealed that he did
not get the
ring from Don or his son, Paul Gaston. No kidding. The thing was hotter
than a
furnace in February, which Don Gaston realized when he tried to locate
the
ring. (He also has one from the 1986 championship team, which he was
able to
locate.)
The Gaston family enlisted the help of Rich Pond, the former Celtics'
man of
many important titles, and Pond quickly got in touch with the seller and
demanded the ring be returned to Gaston.
"Don's reaction was that he wants the ring back," Pond said. "He never
gave
the ring to anybody. It's not something that he wears. It may have been
stolen
a while ago and he never knew it."
In further correspondences with the seller, who Pond said turned out to
be a
ring dealer, Pond was told that this was not the first time the ring had
been
up for sale, although no one could remember any outcry like the one this
potential sale created. "The whole thing is very strange," Pond said.
He is continuing to try to get the ring returned, but he also knows that
the
seller bought it from someone, who probably bought it from someone, who,
well,
you know how that goes. Don Gaston, Alan Cohen, and Paul Dupee purchased
the
Celtics from Harry Mangurian and won a championship in their first year
of
stewardship, 1984. They took the team public a few years later and Cohen
and
Dupee eventually got out, with Don Gaston turning things over to Paul
Gaston in
the early 1990s.
Ramsay shares a few passing thoughts on Inman
The death of former Portland general manager Stu Inman last week at age
80
brought back some wistful memories from Dr. Jack Ramsay, who coached the
1977
NBA champion Blazers, which Inman had put together.
"He was just a very dedicated, old-school basketball person," Ramsay
said.
"He loved the game, the nuances of the game, and he was a great judge of
talent.
He worked very hard at what he did and he went everywhere and anywhere
if he
thought there was a prospect he should see."
Inman will go down in NBA history as the only man who passed on both
Larry
Bird and Michael Jordan when they were eligible for the NBA draft. The
Jordan
story is well known; the Blazers had the No. 2 pick in 1984 and took Sam
Bowie.
Ramsay was the coach at the time. "We already had two quality [shooting]
guards in Jim Paxson and Clyde Drexler," Ramsay said. "And we had no
center. So it
was a very logical decision on our part. And no one knew Michael was
going to
be as good as he turned out to be."
Six years before that, the Blazers had the No. 1 and No. 7 picks in the
draft. Bird was eligible. Portland passed on him at No. 1, taking Mychal
Thompson
(Bill Walton was injured and would soon leave for San Diego). The
Celtics
picked Bird at No. 6 and Inman later said Bird likely would have been
taken No. 7,
even though he had some misgivings.
"I didn't think his body would hold up," Inman said, when asked about
his
reasons for not drafting Bird. "He had that beer-drinking,
softball-player image
and you wondered how well he took care of himself." Inman said he had
one
conversation with Bird that spring and suggested getting together. "He
said he was
playing softball," Inman said. "I said I'd get back to him, but I never
could. His phone was disconnected. The athletic department said they'd
take
messages, but you know how that went."
Larry unreachable? Shocking.
Etc.
Barea developing his game
The NBA luminaries won't be the only All-Stars playing basketball in Las
Vegas during All-Star Weekend. The D-League All-Star Game is also that
weekend, on
Saturday, Feb. 17, at Mandalay Bay. Hey, the Celtics will have at least
one
six-degrees-of-separation connection in the game: Joe Wolf, who appeared
in two
games for the 1992-93 Celtics, is the coach of the Western Division
team. He
coaches the Colorado 14ers in the D-League. The Eastern Division team is
being
coached by Sidney Moncrief, whose D-League job is the head coach of the
Fort
Worth Flyers. The rosters will be announced this week and former
Northeastern
point guard Jose Juan Barea could be chosen. The kid has made quite an
impact
since the Mavericks assigned him to their Fort Worth affiliate in
January,
averaging 27.3 points, 7.8 assists, and 5 rebounds in his first eight
games. Last
week, he earned Performer of the Week honors -- the first NBA-assigned
player
to do so -- for twice topping the 40-point barrier with games of 43 and
41
points.
Anthony deserves Star treatment
When was the last time an NBA scoring champion was not picked for an
All-Star
team? How about never? What were the Western Conference coaches thinking
in
not picking Carmelo Anthony as a reserve? Yes, he did a dumb thing in
New York.
But he apologized the next day, took his medicine from the commissioner
(15-game suspension), and has continued to play well since he returned.
Because of
that, Anthony should get the nod when commissioner David Stern names at
least
one replacement for the Western team because Yao Ming is not going to
participate. There's also a chance that Carlos Boozer won't go because
of a knee
injury, which would create a second opening for the Western squad, which
should go
to Josh Howard. How the Mavericks can have only one All-Star
representative is
mind-boggling, but it also points to the depth in the West.
Risky business for Nocioni
Bulls forward Andres Nocioni hinted last week that he may not be able to
play
for Argentina in this summer's Olympic qualifier in Las Vegas. The
reason: He
will be a free agent (assuming he hasn't signed by then, of course) and
wisely wants to protect himself (see Gasol, Pau, for a reference). "I
want to be in
Las Vegas," Nocioni said in a teleconference with reporters. "I want to
play
for the national team to qualify for the [Olympics], but I cannot say if
I
will be able." Nocioni, of course, has been a mainstay of the Argentine
national
team ever since he drove baseline and dunked over Kevin Garnett and Tim
Duncan
in the 1999 zone qualifier in San Juan. "I want to play for Argentina,
but I
don't know if that will happen." The championships run from Aug. 22 to
Sept.
2, which could bode well for Nocioni, in that he should be signed by
someone at
that point.
Tickets truly on sale
Wondering who all those people are at Celtics games these days? People,
sometimes young people, sitting in the good seats, to watch the team
with the worst
record in the conference? Well, here's one possibility, as voiced from a
season ticket-holder with seats in nosebleed territory. "Throughout the
year, as
subscribers to Celtics Beat, the team's online newsletter, we've been
getting
offers for 50% off much better seats. The most recent offer was for the
Spurs
game last week. Needless to say, next year we'll pass on the season tix
and
just buy some decent seats for 50% off. Quality over quantity." That
e-mail came
out before the Celtics-Clippers game Friday. The Celtics also sent out a
similar e-mail for the Clippers game, offering $60 loge seats for $30
and $30
balcony seats for $15. At 2 p.m., there were plenty of tickets
available.
Roped into taking long trip
This is the time of year when the rodeo hits San Antonio (and honestly,
does
it get any better than that?) and the Spurs go on an extended road trip
with
periodic stops at home. This year, the Spurs will travel more than 7,500
miles
in playing nine straight road games, starting with last Sunday's tilt in
LA
against the Lakers and closing with a Valentine's Day appointment in
Auburn
Hills, Mich., with the Pistons. They will have gone almost a month (Jan.
26 to
Feb. 20) between games at the AT&T Center. The Spurs are 1-2 on the
trip, beating
the Lakers while losing to the Jazz and the Suns on back-to-back nights.
It
was the first time this season that the Suns have posted a win against
San
Antonio, Dallas, Utah, or the Lakers. Those four teams pinned six losses
on the
Suns in the first nine games (when Amare Stoudemire, who had 24 points
and 23
rebounds Thursday, was still not quite fit). Since then, Phoenix is,
ahem, 34-3,
(not including last night's game with Utah, against whom the Suns were
0-2).
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