Mike Gorman getting chalked etc.
Snoopy the Celtics Beagle
snoopy at celticsbeagle.net
Tue Dec 4 14:38:17 CST 2007
Red lit up on the bench as a deliberate way to say "The game is
over. We win." Back then, several players, including Tommy
Heinsohn, smoked; and smoking wasn't the target of so much public
outrage back in the day.
As to the language, it's probably not so much a thing with the older
Celtics players--Red cursed a lot and so did Cousy, to name two
people. That we didn't hear it so much on tv is more a fact that the
FCC frowns on such things, than that they didn't use foul
language. From what I've seen/heard/read about Garnett, it's not a
simple matter of him saying, "Get your lazy ass up the court!", but
apparently something distinctly more vulgar. Given that Ray Allen
grew up a military brat, I'm sure he heard worse growing up, so
whatever Garnett said must have been a doozy.
COULD Red be childish and offensive? Hell, yes. But everyone KNEW
that going in. And frankly, he ran the team, did the scut work,
coached the Celtics to multiple championships, and secured players
who became legends of the game. I think he earned the right to do a
few things his way. Good as he undeniably is, Garnett doesn't yet
have that cachet.
At 11:59 AM 12/4/2007, asterix ninetynine wrote:
>I don't think Red ever threw talcum powder. Blowing cigar smoke in
>their face was far more effective.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Damian <DamianoCeltic at comcast.net>
>To: IGTC Celts List <celtics at igtc.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2007 11:01:30 AM
>Subject: Mike Gorman getting chalked etc.
>
> >>>Let me ask you this: In my mind, the greatest Celtic in the
> history of this franchise was Arnold "Red" Auerbach. He was
> disrepectful, demeaning, and his language was extremely colorful.
>
>Do you hold him to the same standard? Was Red "bush league" and
>"crass"? <<< - Asterix
>
>I think he was and for good of this franchise.
>
>
>I don't recall Red ever, nevermind every game, ritualistically throwing talcum
>in anyone's face.
>
>I don't really know the level or extent of Red's colorful language,
>to be honest.
>Don't know whether it was a bunch of god dammits, or son of a
>bitches, or what have you.
>
>There are degrees of colorful. M-Fer, and C-sucker are orders of magnitude
>more "colorful" than sonofabitch.
>
>Personally, I don't know just which words Red used in public, nor
>how it compares
>with what Garnett says. There seems to have been a sliding scale
>over the years,
>in terms of what language is accepted (or at least escapes
>condemnation) in a public
>forum like a game time arena. My observation is that it's become
>more accepting of
>the course and crass.
>
>In any event, the behavior in question was the throwing of talcum on Gorman.
>
>Yes, it's stupid, and no, Red never did it. No double standard whatsoever.
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