non-KG/Gorman question

[Ryan W]

I think the answer is obvious.  Yes, he's a
Hall-of-Famer.  If it's his first or fifth time
eligible when he finally gets in will be determined
come playoff time.  

Ryan


--- Snoopy the Celtics Beagle
<snoopy at celticsbeagle.net> wrote:

> I think the answer needs to be broken into two
> parts:
> 
> 1. SHOULD Pierce be in the HoF?
> 
> Probably.  Compared with other NBA players of
> similar ability and 
> record, he's a reasonable selection, with his main
> knocks being that 
> he's never won the NBA Championship, and he's never
> been a national 
> fan favorite.  I think if the Celtics reach the
> Finals at least 2-3 
> times and Pierce distinguishes himself in the
> process, his chances 
> are as good as any likely NBA player, which leads
> to...
> 
> 2. WILL Pierce be in the HoF?
> 
> I ask this because we've seen in recent years a
> frequent dismissal of 
> NBA players as HoF members.  The various parts of
> nomination and 
> selection vastly favor people NOT in the NBA.  The
> screening 
> committees are for North America, Women, Veterans
> (career ended 35 
> years before consideration), and international.
> 
> Obviously, Pierce is not under consideration as a
> Woman, Veteran, or 
> International player.  That leaves "North America",
> which includes 
> not only the NBA, but ANY basketball in North
> America, including 
> college hoops.  Many of us can name at least 2-3
> players who were 
> nominated but not elected, while people most of us
> never heard of are 
> getting in.
> 
> There's some people who belive there's a deliberate
> attempt to 
> disassociate the notion that this is the de facto
> NBA HoF,  to the 
> point where several former players have not donated
> any mementos to 
> the Hall.  Back in the very early days, the Hall was
> overloaded with 
> NBA nominations, and the pendulum might have swung
> too far in the 
> other direction.
> 
> I personally think the NBA should either petition
> for an NBA 
> selection committee, or build it's own HoF,
> preferably in Boston.
> 
> To answer the question, under the nomination process
> as constituted, 
> no, he won't get into the Hall, not on the first
> attempt, at any 
> rate.  Probably not until 2-3 attempts go by.
> 
> 
> At 03:32 PM 12/3/2007, mark at 10thumbs.org wrote:
> 
> >I was wondering this after watching the 1st half of
> the MIA game and was
> >reminded of it when reading Jeff's post on him over
> at Celticsblog:
> >
> >
> >Is Paul Pierce a Hall-of-Famer?
> >
> >
> >I was thinking that he might need to make it to the
> Finals, but then i
> >looked at his numbers compared to 3 other recent
> Hall of Famers through
> >age 29: Drexler, Worthy and Nique.
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/2g6n6w
> >
> >Pierce is right there with them each. I feel almost
> like Pierce is
> >underated by fans outside Boston b/c of the last
> many years, by fans of
> >Boston b/c of the irritating things he does
> sometimes (1 on 3, etc) and
> >may get overshadowed by KG over the next 2-3 years.
> >
> >I find myself in that 2nd category -- i think i
> underate Pierce some b/c
> >of the frustration with what he could be. Though
> i've ALWAYS maintained
> >that i'd take him over T-Mac 100 times out of 100,
> who I feel like is
> >generally regarded by the national media as a
> better player.  Pierce's won
> >playoff matches with far less talent, he's MUCH
> more durable than TMac,
> >and has endured with one team rather than leavving
> a good situation in
> >TOR, then complaining his way out of ORL.  In fact
> if you look at PP's
> >numbers they're better almost across the board --
> if just barely
> >
> >Just wondering what others thought.
> >
> >(the other) mark
> 
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