And in this corner...

[asterix ninetynine]

Actually, I am the one who is guilty of being obtuse.  Or perhaps less than direct. 
   
  What I wanted to point out was that your reliance on tired absolutisms was no less silly than the one that posted the absolutism about the American myth.  
   
  In other news, Patriot boards are on fire about the acquisition of Randy Moss.  No less a gentleman there than one Sebastian Telfair, yet he is being welcomed openly across all the boards.
   
  

PScottman999 at aol.com wrote:
  
"Is it "America bashing" to point out that some of the best athletes of the 
past 100 years came out 
of totalitarian regimes in Russia, China and the Eastern European bloc?" - 
Asterix99



Ummm, no, and not even relevant to the argument of the American Dream being a 
myth either.



"Will I be labeled a traitor and sent to Gitmo if I point out that the most 
popular sport on the planet is
football (not bastardized rugby that is played in the U.S.) and that the 
most recognized athletes 
on the planet came from the slums of Rio or the north african ghetto in 
Marseilles or blue collar East 
London?" - Asterix99



Um, no - although one of the nicest, sweetest people I know in the entire 
world is currently defending some 
of the inmates at Gitmo if you'd like to discuss that also irrelevant point 
to the initial argument I can
have her chime in as she could discuss it with much more insight then either 
of us. As to your second 
allegation I suppose in an obtuse way you could say I was saying the american 
"sports" were somehow
superior (which I wasn't) versus the opportunity to reach class levels 
heretofore unknown through contracts
of hundreds of millions of dollars. 



"Do the Kenyans and Ethiopians who own the Boston Marathon come from 
"American modeled" systems?" 
Asterix99

Exceptions to every rule. Interesting that the opportunity to win those 
marathons would be where exactly if 
the American Dream didn't exist and was in fact a myth? In this case we'll 
label it the "Spartan Dream"
to be fair.



Also, I think you are referring to Maslow (rather than Lazlo's) hierarchy of 
needs. He basically 


argued that we take care of our own basic needs above all. I tend to agree 
with those that 


have challenged his thinking as simplistic and not globally applicable. 

Maslow. Thank you for the correction. My Human Communication 101 teacher 
would be 
very disappointed in me.




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