Pressure Makes Diamonds out of Coal

[Snoopy the Celtics Beagle]

1. I'd like to suspend the dance team permanently, send them to the 
$&%^*(%^#%*@^*^ Lakers where they belong.

2. While it's likely to have been thought by several people, I'm the 
only one I know of who routinely refers to Ainge as "Trader Dan".  I 
think he trades too often and DEFINITELY at the wrong time.  So, the 
moniker is more me saying it than anyone else on the list, to be fair.

At 01:12 PM 10/29/2006, Mark Piotrowski wrote:

>I love the suggestion that in honor of our fallen leader, Red, we
>suspend the dance team concept for the season....
>
>Clarifications below Kim:
>
> >At 03:10 PM 10/28/2006, Mark Piotrowski wrote:
> >  >IMO, the 2 biggest mistakes Ainge has made thus far are:
> >  >
> >  >1.  Holding onto Doc as a coach too long.  I think he was a good
> >  >transitional coach from the Obie regime (who he also held onto too
> >  >long).  But it should be clear it's time to upgrade.
> >
> >Great but to whom. It has to be someone who is both an upgrade and
> >who can work with Danny, which was a big problem with the superior in
> >some ways (his players gave their all and they played defense... and
> >no I haven't forgotten that godawful offense, but we were 5th in the
> >league on offense last season and where did that get us) Obie. And
> >upgrade how - will you settle for someone who can coach defense but
> >lets the offense slack a bit? Someone better at in game adjustments
> >but who plays Scalabrine because he likes read hair? Someone who will
> >throw out all the young players regardless to sink or swim and take
> >the rest of the team with them, but hey at least they're getting
> >development minutes? Someone who enforces discipline but alienates
> >the players (to focus on Doc's one strong virtue - that he doesn't
> >hold grudges and so tends not to completely alienate players)?
> >There's no such thing as a perfect coach - everyone has faults. At
> >best there are more or less perfect fits between team and coach. And
> >don't get me wrong - I'm not remotely happy with Doc, except perhaps
> >in some of the human relations things he's done. And that took a hit
> >with his unnecessary and wrongheaded lie over Telfair. But I've never
> >believed that change automatically equates with progress or in change
> >for the sake of change (things can ALWAYS get worse. There is no such
> >thing as it can't get worse), and I don't see anyone available who
> >makes my heart stop with fear that we won't get him.
>
>
>Of course there's no perfect coach, Kim.  But I guess if nothign else
>i"d like a coach that sets a rotation and defines roles.  Yes Doc is
>great at human rleations and his plyaers seem to like him.  But he's
>doing the same thing he did in ORL --- which drove the Magic fans
>crazy.  I've read too many times from players, ex-players and coaches
>that guys in the NBA want defined roles.  And young guys need defined
>roles to not be constantly pressing to get mins.
>
>guys might not always be happy about their roles, but i'd rather that
>than what i fear awaits Delonte this season -- 30 mins one game, 10
>the next, followed by a start.
>
>Who?  I would have liked to give Rick Adleman a try.  Maybe he only
>does well with veteran teams.  And as much as I dislike the way he
>comes and goes, Larry Brown's out there.  Hekc I would have liked to
>see Dave Cowens given a shot (i always liked what he did w/
>Charlotte).
>
> >
> >  >2. Holding onto his "assets" too long.  This may play out over the
> >  >next year, and i truly believe he's trying to do somethign about
> >  >this, but Ainge has done a good job of improving the talent level on
> >  >this team through the draft.... upgrading it further w/o going into
> >  >the very high lottery will likely require a trade taht packages young
> >  >players and picks.
> >
> >OK, this is just ridiculous. Before he got criticized all over the
> >place for being Trader Dan who was constantly churning the team
> >personnel, but now he's holding his assets too long just because he
> >hasn't made a deal since draft day, other than the very very minor
> >Jackson-Jones one?
>
>*I* never criticized Ainge for being Trader Dan -- and felt that was
>a misnomer (did he trade anymore than either Paxson did when they
>took over CHI and CLE?  Or Dumars?).
>
>I guess my point is that for better or worse Ainge has to know that
>he can't resign all 4 guys from the 2004 draft, and teh 2 guys from
>the 2005 draft...  He and Doc have to be making some assesment about
>who to keep and who not to.
>
>If we believe the rumors from this summer (Boozer, Iverson), Ainge
>sees that now is the time to turn some of the potential we have
>(which odds say some will end up unrealized) into proven NBA *star*
>talent.
>
>Do i want him ot go out and trade Jefferson for Scott Pollard or
>Green for Eric Snow? Heck no, but I also think we're all a bit gun
>shy about trading our young talent for fear they'll become the next
>Chauncey Billups or Joe Johnson.  Different situation in my mind here.
>
> >
> >  >there are problems iwth this team, to be sure.  But i'm nervous about
> >  >all the talk of getting rid of Ainge.
> >
> >HUH?????? What's all the talk of getting rid of Ainge other than from
> >Egg for whom Danny is the devil incarnate and Harry who also never
> >posts except to be negative and contrarian.
>
>Actually besides our "Mr. and Mrs. Sunshine" (egg + harry), I've been
>reading a surprising number of articles in the national press
>suggesting that this year is a make-or-break season for Danny.  Now
>admittedly the national writers usually know jack about the specifics
>of a team's situation (see the Trader Dan moniker), but it worries me
>nonetheless.
>
>(the other) mark
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