prediction

[Berry, Mark S]

He has had a two-year tryout. The only two-way aspect to Tony's game is
his ability to make me pull my hair out whether he's on offense or
defense. What is his offensive game exactly? Drive into a crowd and hope
to get fouled? 

He has value as a defender (although not as much as his reputation would
suggest), but he's an absolute liability offensively.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
Behalf Of keltsfan
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'The Boston Celtics Mailing List'
Subject: RE: prediction

Mark

This team is still in rebuilding mode, in other words: season long
tryouts
to see if any of these guys can be part of some hypothetical banner #17.
Allen, Green, Telfair, Rondo, Jefferson, Perkins, West are all young
players
that need minutes 1) to develop and 2) to give Ainge and Rivers some
data as
to whether they are long term answers at their respective positions. 

With respect to Allen, he is the best defender on the team period at the
2/3
positions. He may be overrated but the issues you cite with respect to
his
defense can be overcome with experience. He must play to get better. He
may
not get better but the raw tools are there for him to do so should he
learn
his craft. As well, this team is in desperate need of two way players.
Allen
has the potential to be one.  

Given the Celtics, as currently constituted, are not winning the NBA
championship anytime soon and given that Allen is the best defender on a
team that is desperate for defenders now and in the future should they
ever
be in position to win another championship, it would be prudent to play
him.
That's what tryouts are all about. 

Ravi




> -----Original Message-----
> From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com 
> [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On Behalf Of Berry, Mark S
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:16 AM
> To: The Boston Celtics Mailing List
> Subject: RE: prediction
> 
> Exactly! These guys should see the bulk of the minutes on this team:
> Pierce, Wally, West, Rondo, Telfair. Let Jefferson, Perk and 
> Gomes play 60-70 mpg at the big positions. Tony Allen isn't 
> better than any of those players. He sits.
> 
> Look at the Suns-Lakers box score last night. They identify 
> their core players and play them most of the game. A few guys 
> get scraps. That's the way it should work.
> 
> Mark
> 
> PS -- The most overrated aspect of this Celtics team is Tony 
> Allen's defense. He has more natural ability and at his best 
> he's the best perimeter defender on the team. But he commits 
> a ton of dumb fouls, gambles too much, loses sight of his man 
> too much and is overall very average defensively. Not to say 
> other players are better -- they're not
> -- but at least the others bring something to the table offensively.
> Something other than bad shots, offensive fouls and 
> turnovers, of course.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com 
> [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On Behalf Of Steve Ouellette
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:33 PM
> To: The Boston Celtics Mailing List
> Subject: RE: prediction
> 
> Yes, but the Globe isn't suggesting that Tony might start for 
> Wally, but that he might start for Gomes, i.e. in place of a 
> power forward. Yikes.
> 
> And if Wally was going to go to the bench as sixth man, can't 
> think of any reason why Tony would get the nod over Delonte.
> 
> Steve O
> 
> ---- gene kirkpatrick <gk_tyler at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> > Mark, one thing that Tony's presence brings is high-energy defense
> that translates into running the floor.  I think his 
> turnovers and dribbling violations diminished in the last two 
> games.  I suspect that, when added up, his positives on the 
> floor will far outweigh the negatives once the season begins. 
>  I have accepted that Wally will start and think his recent 
> first quarter shooting warrants that; otherwise, I would 
> start Tony.  Gene  
> >    
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