the problem with rookie points

[Berry, Mark S]

I agree with this completely -- although I don't want either of the Duke
boys at 7. And I don't mean Bo or Luke.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Ouellette
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:04 AM
To: The Boston Celtics Mailing List
Subject: Re: the problem with rookie points

I think Rondo is better than Orien ... but he's definitely not better 
than Delonte and he sure isn't worth the No. 7 pick. He's been a 
disappointment in two years at Kentucky and he's still getting by on 
athleticism and his high school reputation. Not really crazy about 
Marcus Williams either. If one of the Big Six doesn't slip, I'd rather 
take a big -- O'Bryant, Splitter, maybe even Shelden Williams. I'm very 
happy with Delonte at the point ... I might even prefer JJ Redick over 
one of the PGs.

Steve O

Berry, Mark S wrote:

>I agree on Rondo, and as much as Marcus Williams turns me off, I'd
>prefer him by leaps and bounds to Rondo. I'm not even sure Rondo is any
>better than Orien Greene.
>
>I'm hoping Marcus Williams jumps up to Atlanta or Minnesota, allowing
>someone else to drop to the Celts.
>
>Mark
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
>Behalf Of ryan nelson
>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:36 PM
>To: 'The Boston Celtics Mailing List'
>Subject: RE: the problem with rookie points
>
>Rajon Rondo reminds me of a worse shooting, better passing Kedrick
>Brown.  Even better yet, he reminds me of Marcus Banks.  Go back and
>look at the e-mails from when we drafted marcus banks and insert rondo
>for banks and I bet they will be very similar.  I don't buy this "the
>system at kentucky was wrong for him."  Guess what, good players
>outperform regardless of the system.  Can anyone name a college player
>who was hindered by his system who outperformed in the pros?  I can't
>think of one off the top of my head.  I know this is a weak draft but
>there is no way Rondo is the 7th best player.
>
>As for marcus Williams, other than Joakim Noah, he was the most
>impressive player in the tourney.  He was the only player on Uconn with
>any heart and he hit several clutch shots.  I was never really
impressed
>with him until the tourney, he is leaps and bounds ahead of Rondo in
>terms of basketball skills.  That said, would I want him at #7?  Don't
>think so.
>
>I remain firmly in the trade the pick group.  No difference makers at
#7
>and we don't need to get any younger just for the sake of getting
>younger.  Hopefully we can swap it for a pick next year, though I doubt
>anyone will do that.
>
>rmn
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
>Behalf Of Enrile, Roy
>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:22 PM
>To: The Boston Celtics Mailing List
>Subject: RE: the problem with rookie points
>
>About Marcus Williams (Uconn): Personally I think the post a while back
>saying he's like a poor mans Deron Williams(Jazz), was right.
>
>Like Deron, he's a heady ballhandler/passer, can shoot the longball, is
>big compared to Chris Paul, and recently dropped some weight.  Doesn't
>really play as physical as Deron, or bust his butt on D though.  I
think
>he'll be o.k. in the NBA.
>
>I think Rajon Rondo would be better than Marcus Williams, in making the
>C's more of a winner even as a rookie PG, because he'd grow the teams
>defensive/tough culture.  He really is an even better defender at PG
>than Banks, Orien, or Tony.  He can drive-n-dish at will in the
>halfcourt and has the non-turnover-ballhandling and leadership-swagger
>that Orien lacks.  (Orien's excellent pass timing and vision seem to
>only come out in exhibition playground fastbreak games).  
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
>Behalf Of Kim Malo
>
>
>I don't watch college hoops that much so I just don't know, but back 
>to the points, what does everyone other than Mark Berry think about 
>Williams? I respect Mark's opinion, just hoping to hear from others 
>who've seen more of him than I have. I've a friend who has a clue who 
>sees him as not Chris Paul level but in that mode. 
>
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