btw

[Berry, Mark S]

Look at the team around him at this point, and the style they play. Who
else do opponents have to fear? Stephen Jackson? 

The Pacers are a team that through age, injury and circumstance (Artest)
has become a plodding, offensively challenged team with one legitimate
NBA star -- O'Neal. He's not a guy who is going to get you 25 a night,
but Josh think about what you said in your last post ... He gets you 20,
10 and a couple blocks ... and that's it. Do you know how many guys in
the league do that? While also playing great interior defense? That's
incredibly rare.

Jermaine desperately needs a change of scenery, but I'm not so sure he
gets his wish. Bird is no dummy. He knows how hard guys like that are to
find. I'm sure he understands that the problem isn't O'Neal, but the
players around him. If they can make some good moves with Jackson and
maybe someone like Foster, work Saras and Granger into the rotation a
little more and add the right mid-level guy, I could see the Pacers
bouncing back. 

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
Behalf Of Josh Ozersky
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:42 AM
To: The Boston Celtics Mailing List
Subject: Re: btw

I just don't see what the big deal is to Jermaine O'Neal.  How
can anybody compare him to Kevin Garnett?  He's just a complementary
player with some gaudy stats.  Indiana's offense doesn't even revolve
around him, unless he's being guarded by Travis Knight.  Am I really
that far off?  This playoff series sure didn't change my mind.

Josh

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Giovanello" <giovanello at gmail.com>
To: "The Boston Celtics Mailing List" <celtics at igtc.com>
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: btw


> If AJ ends up giving us 17 and 8, I would feel like we got lucky.  He 
> doesnt
> appear to be in the same league as Jermaine.
>
> Its amazing how much people see what they want to see in young
players. 
> AJ
> looks good and certainly could perhaps have a career equal to Jermaine
> ONeal, but what are the odds?  10%?  15%?
>
> If anything, Al has shown us that he is not a sure thing based on his 
> injury
> history, shaky D, and inconsistency.
>
> On 5/5/06, Josh Ozersky <jozersky at optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'll buy that....he could be an impact player as a
>> rebounder / defender in a subordinate role.  Al
>> could be much more.  Jermaine is such a weak
>> character, though.  I still feel that, at the end of
>> the day, he gives you 20 points, ten rebounds,
>> a block or two, and nothing else.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Berry, Mark S" <berrym at BATTELLE.ORG>
>> To: "The Boston Celtics Mailing List" <celtics at igtc.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:12 AM
>> Subject: RE: btw
>>
>>
>> > Yes. My only concern about O'Neal is his injury history. He's a big
guy
>> > who delivers on both ends. He's ideally suited for a situation like
>> > Boston, where he wouldn't be asked to carry the offense. With
Pierce,
>> > Wally, Delonte, etc., he could concentrate on defense, rebounding
and
>> > providing the interior counter to their perimeter games. If he's 
>> > healthy
>> > -- and that's a huge if -- I think he's a perfect fit and one of
the 
>> > few
>> > guys I'd consider trading Al for.
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
>> > Behalf Of Josh Ozersky
>> > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:08 AM
>> > To: The Boston Celtics Mailing List
>> > Subject: btw
>> >
>> > Anybody still think Jermaine O'Neal is an impact star?
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