Chicago trade revisited

[keltsfan]

Egg,

If trading Pierce to Chicago is being investigated, I think Gordon, #2, and
#16  for just Pierce makes the most sense.  Bargain the #7 if Chicago steps
up to replace Gordon with Deng or Hinrich , which as you say, they won't. 

So Boston ends up with #2, #7, #16 and Gordon. Then perhaps they can move
the #7 to someone that will also take on some combination of LaFrentz',
Scalabrine's and Dickau's contracts. If not, then draft the BPA knowing
additional trades may be necessary to balance the roster. 

They key is next year's draft. The top five is filled with star potential
bigs and by fully committing to rebuilding by removing Pierce and LaFrentz
from the roster now, the Celtics odds of obtaining a top pick increases
much. 

Your point about leadership is very important though. West might rise to the
occasion if out from under Pierce's large shadow.  Does he have the talent
to warrant leadership reigns if he does possess the other qualities? While
clearly not a franchise player,  I think if he's moved to the starting two
his talent shows more.  However, I'm not sure he possesses the other
qualities.  He's been very reluctantly to assert himself when playing the
point. Perhaps this is a function of not being comfortable in that role or
perhaps it's a function of playing next to a dominating on court personality
in Pierce. In any event, he hasn't established himself as an on court leader
let alone a team leader. 

Most likely, the franchise player/team leader would still need to be
obtained.  Fine, we're talking full out rebuilding now anyway by moving
Pierce and hopefully LaFrentz.  Then IF Lebron James wants out of Cleveland,
Ainge has the cap flexibility and young talent to make a serious and very
competitive offer. 

Ravi


 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com 
> [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On Behalf Of Eggcentric at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:28 AM
> To: celtics at igtc.com
> Subject: Chicago trade revisited
> 
> On a straight one-team-to-one-team Pierce trade, Chicago 
> seems to be a possible fit. The problem is that Chicago wants 
> to trade Gordon, not Hinrich, not Deng, not Nocioni. 
> But if they really want Pierce and we are serious about 
> trading Pierce, they will likely have to part with at least 
> Deng plus their
> #2 and #16 draft picks for Pierce and our #7. 
> 
> If such a trade were to be executed, it would look good on 
> paper to all those Celt fans who genuinely feel we would be 
> better off without Pierce.
> 
> But such a trade would not be without its attendant problems.
> For who would then be our team leader/franchise player ... 
> the bow from which our championship arrows would be 
> sent forth?   Among our current young players, Delonte has 
> the most character/smarts to be that guy.   But does he have 
> the commensurate talent, especially if he is eventually 
> relegated to backup PG/SG duty? 
> 
> If Winston Churchill had lived long enough to be a Celt fan, 
> he might have stated -
> 
> "I cannot forecast to you the action of trading Pierce. It is 
> a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps 
> there is a key.
> That key is how many more years can we afford to keep getting 
> younger and younger by replacing key players and their pricey 
> salaries with additional draft picks and no-help contracts 
> such as Mills ($6.6 mill), Stewart ($4.5 and $4.8 over two 
> seasons), Fox, Borchard, Olowokandi, etc.?"
> 
> Maybe we wouldn't remain in this "forever young" holding 
> pattern if Wyc/Pag would consider that the engine which 
> drives enterprise is PROFIT, not THRIFT.
> 
> THE TRADE -
> 
> We lose:
> Pierce
> Foye or Simmons at #7 (two current Danny draft favorites)
> 
> We gain:
> Deng   
> Morrison at #2   (assuming Toronto takes Aldridge or Bargnani)
> Saer Sene at #16
> 
> or
> 
> We gain:
> Deng
> Aldridge at #2 (assuming Toronto takes Morrison) Rondo at #16
> 
> Egg
> 
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