Another loss to a bad team

[Cecil Wright]

Take a look at Rashard Lewis' first two years in the league...and then take 
a look at Al Jefferson's first two years in the league.

Now tell me why you would want to move Jefferson.

Cecil

>From: John Lyell <jlyell at verizon.net>

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>I think everyone agrees it is logical that it isn't just Doc, and anyone 
>who has coached knows they can get in there and play. But his track record 
>is not very good, and fact is so far we are going in the wrong 
>direction.How long does the experiment last? I still see both Doc and 
>O'brien as being temporary, relatively low cost solutions to take some of 
>the sting off the Pitino contract. Fact is most franchises today, other 
>than the Red Sox Yankees & Cubs this year, don't really want to spend and 
>offer a mediocre product and hope fans just keep coming. The NBA does 
>handcuff some with the salary cap, but some teams like the Knicks, and you 
>could say the C's have made a lot of bad moves. Let the kids play and see 
>what they can do, but if it is going to be 3-4 years down the road it would 
>seem sense to move Wally & Pierce for younger players. We have had a 3-4 
>year plan for 20 years and haven't been able to maneuver with the cap 
>restrictions and bad contracts. We think we have
>  some good young players, but only time will tell.
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>   Don't be surprised to see Garnett go to Chicago in a package deal for 
>the likes of Thomas, Deng, Gordon and possibly the Knicks #1. The t-wolves 
>at some point will need to realize this may be there only chance to rebuild 
>before he leaves via free agency
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>Cecil Wright <cecilw45 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>   >From: John Lyell
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> >According to Cecil, you can't blame Doc Rivers for not calling any plays 
>to
> >get Jefferson the ball, or for benching Green for Tony Allen. It must be
> >some higher level conspiracy.
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>* Yup...if you say so...that's exactly what I said. I hope everyone else
>realizes that I said no such thing.
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>Reality is we have some young kids that we need to know if they are keepers
>in a year or two, so why not give them the playing time to see what we do
>have so we find out if they are closer to Joe Johnson or Chauncy Billups
>than Kedrick Brown, Forte, Moiso, etc.?
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>* I think we are moving closer to finding out that we have a keeper in
>Green, Rondo, Gomes, Jefferson, Perk and West. Even though Delonte has not
>well played well yet this year, in my eyes at least, I still think he will
>pick things up and be a very good player. I also read that the final play
>was drawn up for Gerald to get that last shot which signals to me that Doc
>was willing to use Paul as a decoy. That, even though the play was botched,
>I know, I know...that was Doc's fault too, is an encouraging development
>alone.
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>Going with more veteran players isn't going to make more than a few game
>difference. We can make excuses that players were out, but look at the
>Grizzlies lineup and tell me who should have won? Pierce's 9 to's didn't
>help.
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>* Part of my point in this discussion is when do we put some onus on the
>players for not playing well? When Pierce turns it over 9 times, when do we
>castrate him over that fact instead of Doc this and Doc that? When the team
>shoots 50-60% from the line and we lose by a couple points, when are the
>players held accountable for it? I said before that I also question some of
>Doc's in game decisions, but then I question every coach of my teams for
>moves. In baseball, when the batter swings and misses a 1-2 slider in the
>dirt, I do not blame the coach as I trust that he did not recommend that 
>the
>player use such judgement. Here's a game where we played without 2 starters
>and our youngsters brought us back to where we could and should have won 
>the
>game. So Doc did just what you wanted him to do. But we lost.
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> > The only reason I can see playing the likes of Allen, Telfair or
> >Scalabrine is to try to get somebody interested. If they can't get 
>playing
> >time on this team, why would others want them?
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>Aside from this game, I think Telfair has been somewhat better than
>expected. You talk Johnson and Billups, then you want to move Telfair
>already after a couple months? I've seen trade proposals with the names of
>Green, Jefferson, Perkins, Telfair, Rondo and Gomes. So much for wanting to
>find out what they can do. Seems someone has already determined that they
>can't play so let's trade them for Rashard Lewis, right? Another high
>schooler who took a while before he became a player.
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> > Could Dwayne Jones, moved for someone we then released, have helped us?
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>I think any big man without a cane and a dog could help us right now.
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>Cecil
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