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>From: Marcus Surrealius
>Subject: Re: Stones vs Who vs Kinks
>> 1971 being when WN was released.
>WN is not the best Who album.
>Why do you think the
>best Kinks album has to be the same year as WN?
It's difficult to debate with you because you clip so little of the previous
I wasn't saying we compare best vs. best in the same year, I was making the
point that by 1971 (WN) the Kinks were no longer on The Who's level (if you
want to insist they were "for a while").
Here's that text from previous post:
>>>The Kinks were certainly on the Who level for
>>Maybe before 1971.
>>After that, no way.
Which you obviously agree with considering you posted this about the Kinks
>> Everybody's in Showbiz ('72)
>> Preservation Act I ('73)
>> Preservation Act II ('74)
>See, I was very disappointed in this era and I
>CERTAINLY wouldn't recommend them
>> Now, please, are you comparing *any* album by The
>> Kinks to Who's Next?
>Sure! Lola vs The Powerman Etc. for one!
>> Again, this isn't about what you or I feel, or *our*
>I guess that's why you said ICSFM was better.
Just because I included my opinion, doesn't mean my opinion is the point.
And, I thought *you* were the one who said ICSFM was better.
What you talkin' about, Willis?
>> It's about mass popularity.
>Then (again) the Eagles rule.
Right. If you insist.
>Sorry, I can't go with that argument.
>The Eagles are definitely played on the radio more
>than The Who.
I can't make that statement.
And, I've written three times now that radio play, exposure via the airways
is just one meter.
It does have it's value.
>For that matter, Kinks songs have been
>used on The Sopranos, and Who songs have not! Ha-HA!
I don't need to list The Who's TV and Movie accomplishments.
> *couldn't* write anthems?
>The Who did no
>traditional Rock N Roll songs. Does that mean they
It was a smart-ass reply.
I have no idea.
>> Beatles are perhaps even greater in the public's
>> mass opinion than The Who.
>The mass opinion is worth what you paid to get it.
I love the Beatles. A whole *bunch* of people love the Beatles.
Mass opinion, means mass appeal, doesn't it?
Isn't that the point of the game?
The potential of a new song by Lennon and McCartney (if that could still be
possible) would far out weigh the potential for a song by just about any
other band in the world.
There is the potential for greatness to loyal fans.
But, there is also the potential for greatness to man kind.
>Zep was in the second wave, with Cream and Hendrix.
You mean the wave that completely blew the doors off music? The wave The
Who continued on?
>> In the UK, perhaps.
>ALSO in the US.
Ah well. I had a 50/50 shot.
>Billboard says these are the top
>five of each group:
What do you mean by "group" ?
>You don't really listen to the radio, do you?
Radio? What's that?
>> In no way do I feel their best is even close to the
>> best of The Who
>Well, sorry, you're wrong about that.
You can't say "I'm wrong about that".
It's an opinion between fans. That's why I wrote "feel"...as in my opinion.
But, beyond that, we can look at popularity beyond the loyal fans.
And, I'm sorry that I simply can not say that The Kinks are more important,
or better, or have grander songs than The Who.
Are others really saying that?
We're going round in circles
>I'm sorry you
>don't appreciate The Kinks, but that doesn't make
>their music any less great or important.
This is where, again, I state that it's not about my opinion.
Kevin in VT