Poster of the March London Gig

[<joseph559@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hey...Can anyone (with connections) on this site get me a POSTER of the upcoming London gig in March? There's a version of it on Pete's website and I'd love to have one if it's available.
 
Or...does anyone have any suggestions on how to get one? 
 
Thanks...
 
Crazy Joe :-)

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The Who Mailing List Digest
Monday, February 16 2004 Volume 11 : Number 043



In this issue:

Re: Pino on Bass
Rog on Virgin Radio
Pino Picked a Peck of Pickled Peppers
Re: Rog on Virgin Radio
Re: Rog on Virgin Radio
Inside info from Fang
What happened to the Rainbow?
Re: Inside info from Fang
With Or Without - Pino
Re: Inside info from Fang
Re: With Or Without - Pino
Re: Pino on Bass
Re: Rog on Virgin Radio
Re: Pino on Bass
Re: Pino on Bass
Re: Pino on Bass
How Many Pecks of Pickled Peppers did Pino Pick?
Re: Pino on Bass 
Oh Yeah....
Re: Pino on Bass
Re: New music or tour
Whic side of the stage...
Re: Oh Yeah....what to play live
Re: New music or tour

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:00:05 -0700
From: Steve 
Subject: Re: Pino on Bass

Stev here;

Theoretical question - a vote if you will;

Pino on Bass = 'Who' tour.

not Pino = no 'Who' tour.

Which way do you vote?

(ok, no comments on content - new tunes, support for album etc. keep it 
simple - same/similar set list as 'usual')

Steve

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 01:47:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Dereck Evans 
Subject: Rog on Virgin Radio

Virgin radio played an interview (recorded earlier)
with Rog last night.
He said a number of interesting things.
Firstly, we all now know about Pino.He also said that
Tommy at the RAH will be "different" He didn't expand
on it but a few surprises are on the way. They will be
supported by THE Coral. (Up and coming brit band)

At the time of interview, Pete has not submitted any
new stuff for an album. When he says new, he means
since the allegations etc. Any new music on an album
(he seemed sure there will be one)will be music Pete
has had for a while. He also said that it could be 6
or 12 songs long!!

Not sure when this was recorded but he did mention
there would be 4 warm up gigs (not 3)but not sure
where they would be.

Read what you want into it.

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:28:34 -0500
From: "Schrade, Scott" 
Subject: Pino Picked a Peck of Pickled Peppers

> does anyone notice that the name itself "pino palladino" is musical? 

In a cruel twist of fate, his name has more fluidity than his bass
playing.

> > > Basically, no reason to look left anymore.
> >
> > Wow. That's harsh.
>
> Oh, come on. It's not *that* harsh.

I meant humorously harsh. Like, "Damn, das cold!"

> Many dolts wouldn't look left when *John* was there.

Ah HA! I'm glad to see you've finally accepted my view that, as you say,
"many" Who concert attendees (the average punters) could've cared less
about "the left side of the stage," focusing instead on Pete & Roger. (Ya
like how I read all that into your statement?) 

> There'll be people showing up in chicken-head costumes.

Jo & Ollie are starting a fan club. Prats For Pino. ;-/ 

> Oh, and then there'll be those that show up in fish-head costumes 
> because of Zak's fish lip expressions (first coined, I believe, by 
> Jacqueline, describing Zak's expression like a fish rising to the top 
> of the tank to eat some food. Absolutely dead on description!)

Hey, the man's gotta breathe!

> The man is stiller (?) than John ever was.

You're right! Oh sure, Pino's got *that* part down!

> (Rabbit flourishes?)

That's all I could come up with.

> > Pino doing his chicken-head peck. That *is* The Who.
>
> Now, *that's* harsh!

Humorously harsh. Remember? We like to have a little bit of fun.

> Hey Scott, there's that "faith" word again.
> Sounds like one of Jo and Jon's crowd! ;-)

(!) My soapbox is broken. While I'm having a new one constructed, "(!)"
will have to convey my anti-religion, pro-science ramblings. So, to your
above comments, I say, "(!)."

> There are plenty of bassists out there that, while not reaching John's
> heights, are more adept to reaching out, stretching, lettin' it go, 
> getting a bit more lead than rhythm.

Good point. I think that's what has a lot of people miffed. There's 
no human spirit (!) coming from "Who bass" anymore. It's all regimented
& structured. Bare-boned & cold. Plunk plunk plunk. 

> Is it too much to ask, now that there's been plenty of time to really 
> look around, to see if there's anyone else out there that could handle 
> the seat better? I mean, look at the improvement, even admitted by 
> Pete, with Zak at the skins. 

Another good point. I've always said that Pete likes to reward those
musicians who have helped him in the past; he likes to stay loyal to
them.

But if that's so, then why the switch from Simon Phillips to Zak Starkey?
Was that move initiated by Pete? Roger? Or did Zak approach *them* & 
plead his case?

Perhaps Pino's got the gig because a queue of bass players never formed.
None of the established, more suitable bass players took the initiative
& contacted Pete or Roger asking to be involved. Who the hell knows.

> I say, (hypothesis) that by bringing Pino back, it really is going to 
> be the last year.

I'm still not convinced Pino will be the bassist on any N. American tour.
Come August, Pino might be gettin' high with Art Garfunkel in Amsterdam.

> Why does this have to be an emotional thing? Why is it, "stand behind 
> him" and don't analyze, or else be a Who-traitor?

Fan Group One: Always happy.
Fan Group Two: Sometimes happy, sometimes perturbed.
Fan Group Three: Always perturbed. 


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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:11:31 -0500
From: "Schrade, Scott" 
Subject: Re: Rog on Virgin Radio

> He also said that Tommy at the RAH will be "different." 
> He didn't expand on it but a few surprises are on the way. 

Thanks for the update, Dereck. Did Roger mention the word "acoustic?"
There are rumors swirling around the PT chatboard saying that TOMMY at
the RAH will be performed acoustically.

> Any new music on an album (he seemed sure there will be one)will be 
> music Pete has had for a while. He also said that it could be 6 or 12 
> songs long!!

This is actually good news. Rather than laboring over new songs, the
band can simply choose from the 4 million "pieces of music" that Pete
has accumulated over the years. Much easier than starting from scratch.


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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:28:51 +0000
From: "L. Bird" 

Subject: Re: Rog on Virgin Radio

Does this mean there's another album in the future? Surely Pete has 
something to say about the last year.

keets

> > Any new music on an album (he seemed sure there will be one)will be
> > music Pete has had for a while. He also said that it could be 6 or 12
> > songs long!!
>
>This is actually good news. Rather than laboring over new songs, the
>band can simply choose from the 4 million "pieces of music" that Pete
>has accumulated over the years. Much easier than starting from scratch.
>
>
>- SCHRADE in Akron
>
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:35:50 +0000
From: "L. Bird" 

Subject: Inside info from Fang

I notice a couple of lists that Fang is predicting that tickets for MSG in 
August 2004 will go on sale Wednesday. US summer tour to kick off in Las 
Vegas.

keets

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 04:54:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Cady 

Subject: What happened to the Rainbow?

It's been re-opened as an old-timey cinema. Go here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/0,11711,1148972,00.html


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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:46:52 EST
From: SicilianMother@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Inside info from Fang

In a message dated 2/16/2004 10:37:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
pkeets@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

August 2004 will go on sale Wednesday. US summer tour to kick off in Las 
Vegas.

Ok, here we go. I am starting to get those butterflies. Las Vegas?? Close 
enough for me. The question is..........which listers will be going......

Hey Joe!! (my brother), Will you go with me to Vegas to see the Who????

I promise I'll behave and not embarrass you!! Wouldn't it be great to 
finally go to a Who show together after all these years........(sshhhhh........don't 
tell anyone that we had tickets to the 2000 show but at the last minute sold 
them because I couldn't get child care).

But, the days of having babies and not being able to do things, are coming to 
an end. I want to go so bad!!!!

Jo :D

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:54:24 -0500
From: Joe Lewinski 
Subject: With Or Without - Pino

I have to vote that if the only way a tour is going to happen
is if Pino is on Bass, then so be it. I am in favor of Pino.
I am historically a Pete / Rabbit watcher for the most part.
Of all 8 Live Who shows I've attended, I have only been
on John's side once. Hell, when viewing concert videos I sit
on the right side of the room. So I guess if given the choice
of no Who if no Pino, I can easily say: "Welcome to the camp
Mr. Palladino!"



Joe in Philly 

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:58:34 +0100
From: Bjorn Ciggaar 
Subject: Re: Inside info from Fang

I hope to go. Depends on ticket prices and locations of shows and all...

At 21:46 16-2-2004, you wrote:

>In a message dated 2/16/2004 10:37:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>pkeets@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
>>August 2004 will go on sale Wednesday. US summer tour to kick off in Las
>Vegas.
>
>Ok, here we go. I am starting to get those butterflies. Las Vegas?? Close
>enough for me. The question is..........which listers will be going......
>
>Hey Joe!! (my brother), Will you go with me to Vegas to see the Who????
>
>I promise I'll behave and not embarrass you!! Wouldn't it be great to
>finally go to a Who show together after all these 
>years........(sshhhhh........don't
>tell anyone that we had tickets to the 2000 show but at the last minute sold
>them because I couldn't get child care).
>
>But, the days of having babies and not being able to do things, are coming to
>an end. I want to go so bad!!!!
>
>Jo :D
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:35:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Ollie Cat 
Subject: Re: With Or Without - Pino

You said it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


- --- Joe Lewinski wrote:
I have to vote that if the only way a tour is going to happen
is if Pino is on Bass, then so be it. I am in favor of Pino.
I am historically a Pete / Rabbit watcher for the most part.
Of all 8 Live Who shows I've attended, I have only been
on John's side once. Hell, when viewing concert videos I sit
on the right side of the room. So I guess if given the choice
of no Who if no Pino, I can easily say: "Welcome to the camp
Mr. Palladino!"



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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:17:11 -0500
From: "Scott Schrade" 
Subject: Re: Pino on Bass

> Stev here;
> Theoretical question - a vote if you will;
> Pino on Bass = 'Who' tour.
> not Pino = no 'Who' tour.
> Which way do you vote?


It took Joe L.'s post for me to figure out Stev's (!) question. It seems
so obvious now. I must be slow today. I *am* slow today.

I, too, vote *for* Pino & *for* the tour. John may be gone but there
are some superstars left. Namely Pete, Roger, Rabbit, & Zak.

If having Pino on bass is the only way to get a Who tour, then I'll take
it. And, at shows, I'd even glance at him from time to time.

Here's another question: If you had to choose, would you rather have
a Who tour & no studio album.....ever, *or,* would you rather have a 
new Who studio album (10-12 tracks) & no future tour?

Notice how I took Pino out of the equation.


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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:23:59 -0500
From: "Scott Schrade" 
Subject: Re: Rog on Virgin Radio

> Does this mean there's another album in the future? Surely Pete has 
> something to say about the last year.


He's saving all those songs for his upcoming, really angry, solo album.
Tentative title: FUCK ME IF I'M EVER GOING ON THE INTERNET
AGAIN.

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:49:35 -0500
From: "Scott Schrade" 
Subject: Re: Pino on Bass

> A bassist, like Flea, would kick some shit into the show that Pete would be
> forced, and want to respond to. It would be great.

The thought of Flea playing with them sickens me. First off, I hate "The Chili
Peppers." Second, that guy's an idiot. He'd probably play shirtless. He'd be
hopping around..... I don't want to see that. I'd rather have Pino. 

And also! Kevin! My good friend. Just choosing a *busy* bass player doesn't
necessarily solve the problem. I'm afraid you've erred in your reasoning, my 
good friend Kevin. (Is any of this making you nervous?)

For you see! Flea (ugh....I don't even like typing his name), while being a *busy*
bass player, is still a clunky, non-fluid bass player. He's all patterns & pops.
The Who aren't a funk band, my good friend Kevil-Doody. Now do you see
the error of your ways?

Compared to Pino, Flea's playing would just mean *more* square blocks trying to 
be squeezed into round holes. Good Who should be circular. And malleable.

I'm telling you: Mike Watt would be the ultimate choice as bassist. For me.
That guy rumbles, improvises, is hugely expressive yet still meat-and-potatoes,
and is a Who fan to boot. And he'd probably enjoy doing it. But, I'd be 
willing to bet neither Pete nor Rog even know who the fuck Mike Watt is.

> That said, I can't imagine Pete sharing the stage with a youngster such as Flea.

Wait, Flea's gotta be around Zak's age. He's not *that* young anymore!


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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:57:56 -0500
From: "Jim M" 

Subject: Re: Pino on Bass

- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Schrade"

> > Stev here;
> > Theoretical question - a vote if you will;
> > Pino on Bass = 'Who' tour.
> > not Pino = no 'Who' tour.
> > Which way do you vote?

> If having Pino on bass is the only way to get a Who tour, then I'll take
> it. And, at shows, I'd even glance at him from time to time.

It's not the only way to get a Who tour, but, ignoring that, I'll take it,
too. I'm certainly not going to pass it up on his account. Just like I
went in '81 even though....

> Here's another question: If you had to choose, would you rather have
> a Who tour & no studio album.....ever, *or,* would you rather have a
> new Who studio album (10-12 tracks) & no future tour?

A Who album would be great, but I'd be excited about new music from Pete,
with or without Roger. I'd really only be excited about a tour if it's Pete
and Roger playing Who songs. Are we saying no more new music from Pete,
ever, or just Pete and Roger together?

Jim M

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:28:30 -0500
From: "Scott Schrade" 
Subject: Re: Pino on Bass

> Are we saying no more new music from Pete, ever, or just Pete 
> and Roger together?


Just Pete & Roger together. The question boils down to: Would 
you rather have a new Who *album, or a new Who *tour?*

Or, we could ask another question concerning only Pete: Would 
you rather have a future solo album from Pete, or would you rather
have Pete's fully completed, published autobiography?

That's a toughie.


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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:53:50 -0500
From: "Kevin O'Neal" 
Subject: How Many Pecks of Pickled Peppers did Pino Pick?

>From: "Schrade, Scott"
>Subject: Pino Picked a Peck of Pickled Peppers
>
>> Many dolts wouldn't look left when *John* was there.
>
>Ah HA! I'm glad to see you've finally accepted my view that, as you say,
>"many" Who concert attendees (the average punters) could've cared less
>about "the left side of the stage," focusing instead on Pete & Roger. (Ya
>like how I read all that into your statement?)

Indeed I do. BoyHOWDY! That was a whole lot of readin' into....
But no, no, no. Many surely doesn't equal "average".
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't seem to remember "focusing" as
being part of the previous discussion...from like 4 years ago. Have you
been brooding your defeat all this time????!!!
Holy ancient archives Bat Man!

>Jo & Ollie are starting a fan club. Prats For Pino. ;-/

Matching T-shirts???

>Hey, the man's gotta breathe!

Fishie!

>> (Rabbit flourishes?)
>
>That's all I could come up with.

Doh. I can't do better.

>Humorously harsh. Remember?

Of course.

>We like to have a little bit of fun.

Yes, we're gettin on, don't you know.
Need to have good crack now and then.

> I think that's what has a lot of people miffed. There's
>no human spirit (!) coming from "Who bass" anymore. It's all regimented
>& structured. Bare-boned & cold. Plunk plunk plunk.

That's it.
No Spirit coming from Who bass anymore.
Perfect.
Hit the nail on the head.
Bullseye.
Got to the point.
The meat of the matter.

Now, remember that when I start rebutting yo ass about my mentioning Flea.
:-)

>But if that's so, then why the switch from Simon Phillips to Zak Starkey?
>Was that move initiated by Pete? Roger? Or did Zak approach *them* &
>plead his case?

Dude. I look to you for answers, not more friggin' questions!

>Perhaps Pino's got the gig because a queue of bass players never formed.

Stu in MD got in queue.
I think it would be fair to say that............ 'every *day* he got in
queue'.

>None of the established, more suitable bass players took the initiative
>& contacted Pete or Roger asking to be involved. Who the hell knows.

'TO MUCH, FOR MAGIC BUS!'

>I'm still not convinced Pino will be the bassist on any N. American tour.
>Come August, Pino might be gettin' high with Art Garfunkel in Amsterdam.

Like a bridge over troubled waters?
Mmmmm, Amsterdam.
The Black and White.
The "*menue*" at The Black and White.
Mmmmm, Burger King right down the road.
Aaaaahhhhhh! Bright lights in Burger King! Bright lights in Burger King!
Bad! Bad! Bad!
RUN AWAY!
Doh! ;-o

> Why does this have to be an emotional thing? Why is it, "stand behind
> him" and don't analyze, or else be a Who-traitor?

>Fan Group One: Always happy.

La, la-la, la-la.

>Fan Group Two: Sometimes happy, sometimes perturbed.


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