In a message dated 10/2/2003 11:00:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, sschrade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Tie him in a sack & see if he sinks in the river, as well. Jo, you'd have to catch me first. And to clarify to the rest, I'm not the one that had to remove the Hall and Oates DVD from *my* player to put in TKAA! Tsk Tsk. ;-) Jon in Mi.