Re: Water Imagery Opinions

["Jim M" <petenotped@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Schrade, Scott"

> So, *should* ice & wetness & snow be considered water images?  Or tears,
as
> some have suggested?

Hey, it was "let your tears *flow*."  I really didn't think tears by
themselves should count, but in the context of them flowing and being used
as a symbol for the passing of time ("let your past go"), I thought it was
appropriate.

> Should each image be judged on a case-by-case basis?  Do we want to put
> *that* much work into this?

I *did*, of course then you went and let in "like a breath, rippling by."
If I were to describe the feeling that song, and that line in particular,
gives me, it would be airy or breezy.  I get no water vibes from it.  I get
exactly what ML says in his post.

> For example, I would argue that, in this line from "Another Tricky Day,"
>
> You know how the ice is / It's thin where you're skating
>
> one would be hard-pressed *not* to imagine an ice-skater on a frozen pond
or
> lake, skating around with the possible danger of falling through at some
> point.  To me, that's a strong water image, even though water in its
liquid
> form isn't even mentioned.

To me, that's just a cliche that expresses someone who's taking chances.  No
imagery there at all, but if there was, it would be a watery one.

> Tears, I'll admit, I have a problem with, as far as being considered water
> imagery.  But if a line contained a metaphor like "tears flowing like
> rivers," I think we'd have to include it.  Some would argue we don't even
> need *that* condition put on it.

Basically, I agree.  It should depend on the context.  *Anything* flowing
like a river should be included, no?

> So, what I'm saying is: A) I want this list to be inclusive of everyone's
> opinions, & B) I'll need feedback & help on occasion if I make a presump-
> tion or do something wrong.

Well, if we really don't like your decision, we can add our line to the list
when it's done and not tell you!  I, for one, will be removing *rippling*,
that's for sure.  As far as the master list goes, I say you make the calls.
You da Aquaman!

> Finally, let me say thanks to all who have contributed so far.

Thank *you*.  It's been fun, interesting and informative.

> "You've all done very well!"
> "Thank you, Mr. Grace!"

What is *that*?  Are You Being Served?

Jim M