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Scott Halpin & Me: Answer to Schrade
Answer to Scott Schrade: Scott Halpin NEVER asked The Who or its organization for any money to perform at The Cow Palace. In fact, he had to sign a release to have the video bit of him performing in The Who's "30 Years of Maximum Rhythm and Blues." The only thing Halpin got out of that was one of the first boxed sets off the line. Halpin does have a complete video tape of the Cow Palace show, but he does not show it to anyone because, once again, he does not want to flaunt it. (Also, he does not want it to fall into the hands of any bootleggers. He protects it like it's the serum that'll cure AIDS.) The video tape, as I stated in my original "Halpin and me" piece was shot by Bill Graham and the Cow Palace people for "insurance purposes" and Scott was lucky enough to get a copy of that show. The video bit you see in "30YOFMR&B" is from that same video tape.
The next year, 1974, Halpin was invited backstage by The Who during the Winterland concerts in San Francisco where Scott finally met Moon. Scott went to the concert and wandered around until someone from The Who's organization recognized him and invited him backstage. He met Moon who was at his Monty Python best, Scott told me.
Halpin also told me other stories about the Cow Palace gig. He said, for example, that Moon's drums were huge. His tom-toms were as big as the bass drum that Scott was using at the time he played drums. When Bill Graham put him behind Moon's kit, Pete turned around and did not know that Halpin had been dragooned into playing for Keith. When Pete realized what was happening, he asked Scott if he knew basic blues beats and Scott told him, "Yes," and Pete told him to, "Watch me." Pete counted off and started riffing, if memory serves me correctly, to "Smokestack Lightning," Scott said he was physically exhausted after the first song because Pete and Ox were so fast in their playing styles and Scott had a difficult time trying to keep up with them. He also felt that Roger was a bit pissed that Scott was there and Scott felt that Roger was doing things to provoke him to fuck up on the drums. Scott wasn't specific, but he made this comment nonetheless. (This feeling didn't carry over when
the two met last year in Chicago...)
After the concert concluded, all four left the stage and Pete was in a rage about the tattered performance and Keith's conduct. Pete wasn't angry at Scott, but Scott saw Pete in all in glory as far as anger was concerned. This was during the Quad tour with all the problems with the tapes and performance problems (rememeber Pete pulling Bob Pridden over the sound board in Canada??) and the Cow Palace gig was one link in the long chain of fucked up concerts that drove Pete...and Roger...mad. Scott saw some of that and his descriptions of Townshownian fury are remarkable to listen to.
I could write more...but my first appointment is here and my secretary is beating me over the head with the case file. Believe it or not, my client is charged with downloading kiddie porn on the computer. Being a criminal defense attorney has its burdens....
Now...where have we heard that before???
My best to you, Scott, and I like your web postings. And love to all posters on this website.
Jai Guru Deva. Om.
Crazy Joe
8/27/03
The Who Mailing List Digest <TheWho-Digest-Owner@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
The Who Mailing List Digest
Tuesday, August 26 2003 Volume 10 : Number 258
In this issue:
Re: uncircumcised
Re: Scott Halpin and me
MP3's of synth tracks
Re: New Who Comercial - and this one's not "mainstream"!
Re: Scott Halpin and me
Re: New Who Comercial - and this one's not "mainstream"!
Pete in Press - No Negative Mention
Pete News Link
Re: Pete in Press - No Negative Mention
Re: New Who Commercial - and this one's not "mainstream"!
Re: uncircumcised
Pete in Press - No Negative Mention
Sprite and Who on TV
Silence Day
Rare Who Snapshots to be published.....Mirror.co.uk - My 60s snapshots
Much ado about wha???
Re: Sprite and Who on TV
Re: much to do about the penis
Re: much to do about the penis-no Who
kampuchea
THE WHO CONVENTION 2003
Re: Scott Halpin and me
any word on tour?
Re: any word on tour?
Need help with a lyric
Re: Need help with a lyric
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:14:49 -0500
From: Alan McKendree
Subject: Re: uncircumcised
>> From: "Jim M"
>>
>> Kevin, I know I can't get"uncircumcised." Sheesh!
True, you can't restore the missing flesh, but there are procedures to
work with the remaining skin to restore a natural, permanent, and
continuous protection for the glans. The increase in sensitivity is
reportedly remarkable. For comparison of the difference, imagine your
formerly-normal upper lip being stitched to the underside of your nose,
so it is permanently exposed to air and never moistened by saliva. Now
imagine the sensitivity you could expect from it after a decade or six
in that position.
Also, smegma does not form if basic washing is observed. That's part
of the instruction manual. And the crap about circumcised penii being
less susceptible to cancer is crap.
Sorry for the off topicity, but there is apparently a serious lack of
knowledge out there.
Cheers,
Alan
"the average Texan...carries not just a gun but a SHOTGUN." --Pete
Townshend, 1967
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:24:48 -0400
From: Jason Hare
Subject: Re: Scott Halpin and me
>And, thus, that was my two nights with The Who and Scott Halpin,
>bless their souls.
Great story. Thank you for sharing.
Jason
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:34:32 +0200
From: Bjorn Ciggaar
Subject: MP3's of synth tracks
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone has any MP3's of synth tracks of WHO songs like
Baba O'Riley, 905, or any other WHO song. We're trying to cover some WHO
songs with my own band, but what I always found annoying by other band, was
the crappy keyboard synth sound of the synth tracks. I know I once had a
MP3 of the Baba O'Riley synth, but I lost it. :-(
So I'm looking for the originals, *or* ones that come damn close to it. :-)
Thanks!
Bjorn
http://www.ba-da-bjorn.tk
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:24:53 -0400
From: "Jim M"
Subject: Re: New Who Comercial - and this one's not "mainstream"!
I believe this might have already been posted here, but you can view these
ads on the Hummer site:
http://www.hummer.com/hummerjsp/world/tv/index.jsp
Happy Jack is the soundtrack to the "Big Race" ad. I haven't seen it on TV
yet.
Jim M
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "william sturm"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: New Who Comercial - and this one's not "mainstream"!
> MY favorite however can't ya tell!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin O'Neal
> To: thewho@xxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 8:34 PM
> Subject: New Who Comercial - and this one's not "mainstream"!
>
>
> I haven't seen it yet, but I get home from days away, and my wife tells
me
> there's a new Hummer2 commercial (there are multiple new Hummer2
> commercials
> in this latest blitz) that features The Who, and of all
songs..........hold
> onto your hat......HAPPY JACK!
>
> Now *that* impresses me.
> I don't consider HJ a widely popular mainstream song.
>
> Looking forward to hearing how they present it.
> Hoping Keith is heavily featured as he should be.
>
> Kevin in VT
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:35:37 -0400
From: "Schrade, Scott"
Subject: Re: Scott Halpin and me
> Great story. Thank you for sharing.
Yeah, thanks, Joe. So, I take it the outlandish rumor about Scott asking
The Who for money for his time on stage with them is completely false then?
- - SCHRADE in Akron
Irrationally held truths may be more harmful than reasoned errors.
- Thomas Huxley (1825 - 1895)
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:40:11 -0400
From: "Schrade, Scott"
Subject: Re: New Who Comercial - and this one's not "mainstream"!
> I haven't seen it on TV yet.
Me neither. ;-( It's been playing for about a month or two in other
parts of the country, & a friend in my area told me he saw it the other
day. So, it's only a matter of time, I guess.
I notice Claritin went from The Who's "Overture" to the B-52's "Roam."
They must've purchased the rights to a handful of songs.
- - SCHRADE in Akron
Irrationally held truths may be more harmful than reasoned errors.
- Thomas Huxley (1825 - 1895)
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:52:14 -0500
From: "Sigel, James J"
Subject: Pete in Press - No Negative Mention
Wow - they are quoting Pete again, as if nothing had ever happened...
Could this mean something?!?
Hendrix, Allman, King Ranked as Top Guitarists
Mon Aug 25, 2:19 PM ET Add Entertainment - Reuters to My Yahoo!
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Late rock musicians Jimi Hendrix (news) and
Duane Allman (news) lead the list of the 100 greatest guitarists of all
time in the upcoming issue of Rolling Stone magazine.
Hendrix, who invariably tops such polls, received a glowing tribute from
Who guitarist Pete Townshend (news), who wrote that he "made the
electric guitar beautiful."
Townshend recalled that one of Hendrix's shows was "so profoundly
powerful" that he found himself holding hands with fellow devotee and
guitarist Eric Clapton (news).
Allman was hailed by the magazine for transforming "the poetry of
jamming" with the Allman Brothers Band, the Atlanta rock group he
founded with younger brother Gregg in 1969.
B.B. King, who turns 78 next month, came in at No. 3. "His
string-bending and vibrato made his famous guitar, Lucille, weep like a
woman," the magazine said.
Clapton landed at No. 4, followed by Delta bluesman Robert Johnson.
Rounding out the top 10 were Chuck Berry (news), Stevie Ray Vaughan, Ry
Cooder (news), Jimmy Page (news) and Keith Richards (news).
The survey is featured in the next issue, which hits streets on Friday.
The No. 100 spot went to Kim Thayil of defunct Seattle rock band
Soundgarden. Townshend himself was No. 50. Two women made the list: Joni
Mitchell (news) at No. 72 and Joan Jett (news) at No. 87.
Stax session guitarist Steve Cropper, who was judged the No. 2 guitarist
in a Mojo magazine survey in 1996, was good enough for only No. 36 in
Rolling Stone's estimation. Two spots behind him was Fleetwood Mac's
Peter Green (news), who had been No. 3 on the Mojo list.
Reuters/VNU
Jim in Colorado
PS - Oh yeah, they mention some other guitar players too...
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:56:26 -0500
From: "Sigel, James J"
Subject: Pete News Link
Along with the article posted earlier, I found this link to assorted
news articles on Pete in a Yahoo repository. If anyone wants to keep up
on the news stories; some newer, some we've already seen... I tried the
link, it should work.
http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news/?p=%22Pete%20Townshend%22&c=&n=
20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw
Jim in Colorado
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:31:55 -0400
From: "Schrade, Scott"
Subject: Re: Pete in Press - No Negative Mention
> Late rock musicians Jimi Hendrix (news) and Duane Allman (news) lead
> the list of the 100 greatest guitarists of all time in the upcoming
> issue of Rolling Stone magazine. Townshend himself was No. 50.
Rolling Stone should come up with a list of rock magazines that used to
be relevant & entertaining years ago but have been sucking splotchy ass
since the 1980s.
- - SCHRADE in Akron
Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact,
every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God.
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:41:26 -0400
From: "O'Neal, Kevin W."
Subject: Re: New Who Commercial - and this one's not "mainstream"!
>From: "Jim M"
>Subject: Re: New Who Commercial - and this one's not "mainstream"!
>I believe this might have already been posted here, but you can view these
>ads on the Hummer site:
>
>
>
>Happy Jack is the soundtrack to the "Big Race" ad. I haven't seen it on TV
>yet.
OH that's AWESOME!
What a great commercial!
And, no editing of the song.
Best commercial out there.
I'm so psyched to hear Moonies drumming!
Thanks for the link, Jim M. !
Kevin in VT
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:50:54 -0400
From: "O'Neal, Kevin W."
Subject: Re: uncircumcised
>From: Alan McKendree
>Subject: Re: uncircumcised
>The increase in sensitivity is reportedly remarkable.
Bullshit! :-)
I've read a number of different reports from patients who received circumcisions in their adulthood due to various factors (all ending in one hell of a painful procedure) and they claim that the sensitivity is the same.
Hell, if true, it's a damn good thing that I *am* cut (whoops, the cat's out of the bag...so to speak) 'cause I'm too damn sensitive as it is! Someone make the wind stop blowing!
>Also, smegma does not form if basic washing is observed.
And how would you know, hmmmmmm? ;-)
Kevin in VT
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:55:56 -0400
From: "O'Neal, Kevin W."
Subject: Pete in Press - No Negative Mention
>From: "Sigel, James J"
>Subject: Pete in Press - No Negative Mention
>
>The No. 100 spot went to Kim Thayil of defunct Seattle rock band
>Soundgarden. Townshend himself was No. 50. Two women made the list: Joni
>Mitchell (news) at No. 72 and Joan Jett (news) at No. 87.
50! And, 40 behind Keith Richards and Page??????
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!
Rolling Stone *does* suck "splotchy ass".
FFFFFFffffffffffffffffffffuck Youuuuuuu!
Maybe the 50th ranking is the negative mention.
Kevin in VT
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:59:14 -0400
From: "O'Neal, Kevin W."
Subject: Sprite and Who on TV
I've never seen it, but my wife is convinced there was a Sprite commercial a few years back featuring LROM from Quad.
Can anyone confirm this????
Also, it struck me last night while watching the start of CSI Miami, that The Who dominates TV.
No other band is presented on a regular basis at the start of two major prime time TV shows like The Who.
Also, no other band is presented in as many commercials as The Who.
Whether this is a good or bad thing is a matter of opinion, I'd imagine.
Kevin in VT
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:00:34 -0400
From: "O'Neal, Kevin W."
Subject: Silence Day
10 July 2003
Silence Day
For the followers of the Indian Master Meher Baba today is an important day - it is the anniversary of the beginning in 1925 of the Avatar's life of complete silence. Silence is what I would like for a while - but it seems impossible.
I don't want to pick a fight with any British newspaper, but some of them are starting to make things up. This year has been a tough one for me, but contrary to what one British tabloid wrote yesterday, I am not depressed, my neighbours are not abusing me - far from it, they go out of their way to show me warmth and understanding - and I have not received death threats. I have a driver who acts as a kind of bodyguard and I have a night security man - but I always have. No change there.
I walk freely in my town, I eat in local restaurants and everyone is very good to me. I take what happened to me very seriously indeed, and I hate the idea that anyone might believe my intentions were criminal, but I do believe great good has come out of it all.
One message I want to send. I know I am not above the law, but the law on the access of indecent images on the internet was changed in this country AFTER I did my research. While doing research I knew the law. I was not breaking it. I'm not stating this to make an excuse. But surely anyone can see if that is a fact, and it is, why would I be ashamed of the subsequent due process of law acting against me?
But I am deeply sorry for the trouble and pain I've caused: even the investigating officer (in Texas) who first found my name on a porn site database was a Who fan, and was saddened.
But I am not sad. I am out of the war against child-porn, but the war continues and that is what matters.
I'm happy, strong, sober, humbled and for the rest of the day I'll try to stay silent.
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:02:57 -0400
From: "O'Neal, Kevin W."
Subject: Rare Who Snapshots to be published.....Mirror.co.uk - My 60s snapshots
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13329528_method=full_s
iteid=50143_headline=-My-60s-snapshots-name_page.html
My 60s snapshots Aug 25 2003
NEVER-BEFORE SEEN PICS OF STARS
By Fiona Cummins, Ms Showbiz
HE watched The Who's Keith Moon smash down a door with a fire axe.
And he heard George Harrison's startling dressing-room performance of the
Beatles classic I Feel Fine.
Now photographer Brian Bignell has revealed his astonishing private collection
of some of the giants of 1960s rock and pop. His pictures - until recently
gathering dust in the loft of his home in Burnham, Essex - give a fascinating
insight into what went on behind the scenes when the top bands took to the
road. Brian says: "Everyone was really friendly. It wasn't like celebrities
today, who are surrounded by minders and travel on luxury tour coaches."
He rubbed shoulders with the Hollies, the Small Faces and the Rolling Stones.
But Beatle George's impromptu performance in 1963 is one of his favourite
memories.
"He was just fooling around, but it was electrifying," he says. "The hairs
stood up on the back of my neck."
Keith Moon's special brand of mayhem also impressed Brian. He says: "Keith
came downstairs with a towel round him, but his dressing-room was locked. He
disappeared for a few moments and then came back wielding a fire axe and took
it to the door."
Now Brian, 57, plans a book of his pictures as a reminder of an amazing era.
NIPPY: "This shot of Wilson Pickett was taken when he'd just arrived in
England on tour. It was in winter and he was feeling the coldSTROLL MODEL: I
took this picture of Tom Jones at the New Musical Express poll winner's'
concert at Wembley in 1965. I spotted Tom walking past and asked him if he''d
mind posing for a photograph. He said: "No problem at all'", and that was
that"AN EXPERIENCE: "I took this frame of Jimi Hendrix, centre, at the
Finsbury Park Astoria in North London in 1967. We hadn't set it up beforehand
- - I just asked him if we could do some pictures and we did them in the
manager's office"GOOD TIMES ROLLING: "This one of the Stones was taken at the
Finsbury Park Astoria while the band was on a tour in 1965. They were having a
drink and relaxing soon after coming off stage. In front, from left, are Bill
Wyman, the late Brian Jones and Mick Jagger, with Charlie Watts and Keith
Richards behind"OX" TAILED: "I snapped John Entwistle at a venue in Sheffield.
He was holding his jacket up because it was raining - not to shield himself
from the cameras, like celebrities do todayKIND DATE: "I took this photograph
of Cilla Black at an another NME poll winner's' concert in the late '60s. She
was really friendly and nice - most of the stars were in those daysNICE GUY: "
Van Morrison when he was still a member of the group 'Them'TEA-HEE: I spotted
Cliff Richard drinking a cuppa in the canteen at WembleyBOYISH: Scott Walker
arrived
for a magazine shoot"SERIOUS: John Lennon came into our studio in the West
EndNATURAL: "I photographed Dave Davies in a dressing room during the KinKS''
1965 tour. I like this one because it''s not too posed"
>From Thewho.net/news
Kevin in VT
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:19:42 -0500
From: "Sigel, James J"
Subject: Much ado about wha???
Kevin:
>Who knew smegma was a real word!??!
And such a lovely little word it is. I've known the word outside of the
youthful term and also outside of the clinical term. I believe that was
the name of a contestant on Monty Python's "How Not to Be Seen". Mrs.
BJ Smegma I believe the name was...
Mc:
>2. Listen and/or watch Baba O'Riley from the Shepperton show (TKAA)
>Roger hits those high notes with absolute accuracy AND amazing power.
That's a perfect example of his peak. Weren't the Shepperton shows
around '77? Right around the time they were recording WAY?
>>I though Plant sounded fine as I saw him 3 times with THE
>>WHO last year. He's
>>not Daltrey but who is ya know lol.
>
>I whole-heartedly agree. I though Plant's voice sounded excellent,
I wasn't knocking Plant's voice aside from his whiney sort of "Fool in
the Rain"-ish delivery. He still has a rather hypnotic voice. But what
he lost as a young man (while Roger was still improving) was that POWER
he used to have before, say Zep 4. There's no way he could belt out
"siiii-iiiince I been lovin' you babe..." now. Hell he couldn't do it
by the time Houses of the Holy came out too. It's as if he blew out a
vocal chord or two by that time.
>I also am not wild about the way he is singing some of the songs these
days, but that is >simply a personal opinion about his vocal choices.
Okay, so it's not me alone who's noticed that too. I'm not a vocalist,
so I don't know for sure, but I think of his vocal approach now is like
a stage singer in a Broadway musical. He's taken some of the grungy
snarl out of his delivery and put a polish on it that sometimes hints at
"Oklahoma" or "South Pacific". But you're right too - Roger is still
the man...
Jim in Colorado
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:23:01 -0400
From: "Schrade, Scott"
Subject: Re: Sprite and Who on TV
> I've never seen it, but my wife is convinced there was a Sprite
> commercial a few years back featuring LROM from Quad. Can anyone
> confirm this????
It's true but I believe it was a 7-UP commercial.
- - SCHRADE in Akron
Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact,
every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God.
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:36:14 +0100
From: John Hughes
Subject: Re: much to do about the penis
Kevin, re
> > I personally am accustomed to the circumcised penis, and therefore
> > that is what I prefer.
>
> When our research uncovered the medical term of "smegma" ("white
> cottage cheese substance that accumulates under the foreskin), our
> decision was made. Who knew smegma was a real word!??! We always
> thought it was one of those words kids make up in school!
A while ago, a British satirical magazine called Private Eye ran a
cartoon or stories about the greatest British band ever, Spiggy Tope and
the turds. This was actually a piss take of John Lennon and the Beatles,
and my friends and I at the time weremuch taken by this juvenile and
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