Re: Mrs. Idiot/Uh-Oh/The Who in Afghanastan?

["L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>]

> >Are you suggesting that all the women should stay home?

>All I was saying is, there is perhaps a very real parallel between kiddies 
>abominable behavior and the lack of a mommy in the house.  Don't let sexual 
>politics cloud what I'm saying here; I'm speaking as objectively as I can.

Tsk, tsk.  Twice I've suggested that men are just as responsible for this 
abominable behavior as women, and twice you've skipped right over it.  What 
kind of effect do you think lack of a daddy in the house has?  That's what 
leaves the boys imitiating Ice-T and the girls Ms. Britney.


>I think women have it rather wonderful these days don't you?  Lots of 
>choices if you're a female more so now than ever before - be a mother, a 
>professional or both.  And good for them.

Not that much choice.  If you can't look (and act) like Ms. Britney Spears, 
you might as well hang it up.  ;)


>But, there's a certain bond between mothers and children that men will 
>never understand because we can't feel it; mothers have some kind of 
>spiritual bond that I think comes from carrying the infant in the womb.  
>I've heard of it referred to mostly as, "the Motherly Instinct".

And fathers and children should have a similar bond.  Seriously, it seems to 
be true that girls go looking for sex early on because of a poor 
relationship with their fathers.  Plus, boys need their fathers as a role 
model.  Mothers can provide love, but they're not much as a role model for 
boys--especially for teen boys who are trying to cut the apron strings.  
Boys really need their dads at that age.

The mother/child bonding takes place immediately after birth, BTW.  Mothers 
and children who are separated then don't bond as well.


>If Mom's a professional, then no matter how you cut, dice and slice it, the 
>kids are missing out on something that was in the home before the sexual 
>revolution began; when Mommy was there all day with the kids.

And no matter how you cut, dice and slice, it, the kids are missing out on 
something that was in the home before the Industrial Revolution began; when 
Daddy was there all day with the kids.

Somebody or other did a poll of Boomer men, BTW, and found their biggest 
disappointment was the lack of quality time they'd had with their dads.


>Something's missing there.  Luckily for me, my wife agrees with me on this 
>one and it's both our belief that a mother's influence on a child is much 
>stronger than the father's.

I hope you don't think this lets you out of responsibility to your (future) 
kids.


>Although that's not saying that father's don't have any influence because 
>they do.  They just don't have that unseen, mystical bond between mother 
>and child.  She's currently arranging her job
now so she can permanently work from home when we do start having kids.  If 
she can't, then dammit I will be an at home mutha.

Just make sure the kids know who you are, okay?  ;)


>One way or another, we both believe that at least ONE parent should be 
>home, preferrably the mother.  We've taken society's current situation as 
>an example of how NOT to raise kids.  But that's our preference and I'm 
>sure other's here think I'm full of dog dung.

That's fine, but remember that just being home doesn't cut it.  You have to 
take the time to teach kids how to live while you're there.  You can't sit 
in front of the TV (or a computer) and yell at them in the other room.


>You're not gonna like this.  What would happen is this:  Kids would have a 
>better family identity and all the men who were displaced by the women 
>after the sexual revolution would get help to cure their alcoholism and 
>mysoginistic tendencies.  Then they would return to work and we'd be back 
>to the carefree 1950s again!

Heehee <hack, chortle, choke>

Ah.  Wasn't the Fifties when everybody had nightmares about nuclear clouds?  
Not so carefree as you remember.  ;)


>I don't know.  IF the theory of mother's absence leading to kids' negative 
>behavior is correct:  Screw the economy - healtier family life is more 
>important.

I'll agree that one parent is better than none.  But putting your trust in 
the one-parent home has proven pretty risky.


>party system.  Realistically, the Libertarians aren't anywhere near as 
>powerful as the Dems and Reps so they don't really count all that much.

As I understand it, the electorial college can only vote Democrat or 
Republican.  Does anybody know if that's true?  (Is anybody still reading 
this?)


>See My Way (Rog, I hope your new songs are better than that!)

The lyrics are as good as anything Pete was writing during that period.  The 
music needed work though.  Think they should rework it now?


keets

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