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Re: Laying off the Beatles; U Too; Spiritual Who; Canada



> First of all, lay off the Beatles. :)

Nicole:

Aw!

> Second, when you put it that way, I
> can agree with you.

I've spent a good deal of time studying the phenomenon of Manson and it
appears to be very clear that Manson wanted to be in jail. He asked not to
be released the time before the murders (and he had spent half his life in
jail at that point). He made sure he did something that would ensure he'd
never get out again. His countercultural posturing rang false, and his
theory of a race war he called Helter Skelter was laughable and not
consistant with his abilities (particularly in controlling people).

> Hate to tell ya, but I did listen to the White Album first, as I
> discovered the Beatles before the Who. Uh oh, looks like I'm doomed.

Well...if you find yourself in that situation, let me know. I'd love to
study it as it happens, on the scene as it were.

> For me, I'd have to say Love is coming down.
> Also (bracing from impending retort from Mark on this), I can't say I have
> an appreciation for Sunrise yet.
> Mark!  I said yet!  I keep trying, but it just doesn't stick with me.
> I don't know why.

Kevin:

Obviously you've never had your heart shredded by a woman. I suppose you
can't appreciate Melancolia either.
Besides, DAMN MAN! The LYRICS: "The chances I've lost opportunities tossed
away and into the blue..." There's nothing that good on Sgt. Pepper's (sorry
Nicole)!

> I'm just not alone!
> Can't you just let me enjoy *that*? ;-)

No, you have Tania so you can't complain about being alone. You are a very
lucky fellow, and you'd durn well better appreciate it!

> Just didn't like U2 stealing some of The Who's 911 fire.

This is hardly the first time, and not only by U2. From the beginning, other
bands have been praised and awarded and loved for doing things The Who did
first (and better). Beatles, Hendrix, Zeppelin, Black Sabbath...line `em up!
Hell, even Big Country did the U2 thing first and better! U2 was great from
October until Joshua Tree, with special mention for Achtung, but that was 20
years ago...

> I thought of my co-worker as I was reading our discussion about U2's
> appearance at the Super Bowl.  Isn't music just another form of
> entertainment?

Jeff:

When it's Britney, certainly. When it's The Who, it's much much more than
mere "entertainment." While I know this comment is probably going to get me
into trouble, no DEFINITELY will, I tend to think a person with the
intelligence to appreciate The Who isn't going to be satisfied by the mere
entertainment of watching a bunch of big guys hitting each other and
throwing a ball around, sometimes kicking it, sometimes running from the
other big guys. And then all going to in the back to get naked and take a
shower together. Playing a game is one thing, exercise is good, but watching
it is kinda weak, don't you think?
Well, I do anyway. You could be researching Charles Manson.

> Is rock really about anything in particular?

Do I have to answer that? Is Quad about anything in particular? Was WN meant
to be? How about My Generation?

> Can't it be
> simple fun without betraying some imagined tradition of rebellion and
higher
> purpose?

I'm sure it is, for say a Kiss fan.

> Isn't it pretty goddamned pretentious to thrash U2 for their
> appearance and yet laud The Who for using their CFNY appearance to further
> their fame?

I'm not going to say I'm not pretentious, but I think U2 at a football game
to ensure a larger viewership and The Who raising money to help families are
two completely different things.

> I think a rock band can have it both ways regardless of whether I like,
love
> or hate their music.

Are you raising the spector of Pete's sexuality again?

> Different for anyone. For me, rock (and especially live WHO) is more like
a
> religion. I don't go to church, but I do go to rock concerts. ;-) (so I
> guess I'm gonna be alright after all)

Bjorn:

Perhaps you should use the word "spiritual" rather than "religious." The Who
is certainly a spiritual band...many of the songs we love most were written
by Pete from a spiritual point of view.

> Stats show that violent crime among the youth is dropping

Steve:

I don't know about Canada, but all crime in the US was dropping until the
economy went sour. It's clear to me that the best way to fight crime is to
create prosperity.



   "When I'm talking about myself, and when he's talking
      about myself, all of us are talking about me."
                George "Mr. Salty" Bush


               Cheers                 ML