Bjorn, I think ther Doc Martens, are they kinda close to these? http://www.drmartens.com/asp/product/product-info.asp?code=8667Z I too love Pete's shoes so if you figure out what they are can you tell me? -jess in jersey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/