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Re: The Kids Are Offspeed; Money in various configurations; MP please
Hey everyone
For future releases, if you can, try preordering DVDs. I did this with Who's Next and received it
the day before the official release.
--- "Mark R. Leaman" <mleaman@sccoast.net> wrote:
> > FWIW I notice that thewhodirect.com is also carrying the DVD of WN
> > now. (Plus a snazzy black bomber jacket with the band's logo.)
>
> Phil:
>
> I didn't know that. I wish I had, but now it's too late.
>
> > Then there's no point in buying it. Might as well just get another
> > copy of the VHS when it wears out than upgrade.
>
> Ah, but is it still in print on VHS? Most movies aren't, once they're
> released on DVD.
>
> > How you handle money has to do with your value system. Obviously they
> have
> > put money aside, but the way they generally run things, you'd suspect
> > they're more artistically oriented than business oriented.
>
> Keets:
>
> You've got a good point, but it's not brain surgery. Buy land. That's all
> you have to do. No way to lose on that one, really.
>
> > Pete has show signs of an urge to accumulate wealth just lately
>
> But he has the ability to create, whereas the other two aren't so apt in
> that department.
>
> > a studio to do it for you, you can always finance it yourself.
>
> I would have thought he'd rather anyway, in order to retain control. Look
> what happened with Tommy, when he handed complete control to Ken Russell.
>
> > >Roger and John should promote their songs for use in ads and movie
> >
> > Good idea.
>
> Alan:
>
> Uh, maybe not in Rog's case. Hey, I like the guy and all but his
> songwriting skills are extremely limited.
>
> > I just read on petetownshend.com today that he's released Scoop and
> > Another Scoop remasters on the eelpie records label.
>
> Phil:
>
> I guess he kept the rights, having learned from his experiences with MCA.
>
> > I've ordered from CDNow for 3 years, and I have had to order the
> Who's
> > Next DVD 4 times, each to no avail. I finally told them to cancel the
> > order, and I'm going to get it from TheWhoDirect.
>
> Jon:
>
> You guys fill me with hope, you and Derick. I got nothing again today.
>
> > So this is the deal. You sign away a little chunk of your immortal soul
> > and most of the profits on recorded media in return for distribution and
> > promotion.
>
> Uh, THIS is rather biased. What about the money put up by the label to
> distribute and promote the band, which obviously the artist doesn't have?
>
> > The numbers are pretty harsh. You pay $12 to $16 for a new CD. That CD
> > cost around $1.80 to manufacture, including the disk, printing,
> > packaging, and insert.
>
> Actually more like $.80. Let's keep this argument accurate.
>
> > The rest of the profits, $4-$6, goes to the record company. For the
> > service of being the record company and doing what record companies do.
>
> Yeah, like getting the artist an audience.
>
> > The record industry standard contract is pretty simply "Give us all the
> > money, or at least almost all the money, or nobody will know who you are
> > and nobody will come to your shows and nobody will buy your t-shirts."
>
> That pretty much sums it up. No artist is forced to sign anything at
> gunpoint. It's called business, and everything works that way. If you want
> to reject business as it's done, then buy nothing more from anyone. Check
> out the situation with farmers. I hate capitalism, but if you live in the
> USA it's be a capitalist or be on Welfare. Thems the grits, as they say
> around here. You could always move to Cuba, and if you do please take
> Ellean with you...
>
> > The RIAA is more or less a music mafia that makes sure nobody gets a
> > better deal than that.
>
> I don't like these guys either. But someone lets them push everyone around.
> It doesn't have to be that way.
>
> > What the internet provides is a distribution channel that the RIAA
> > can't control.
>
> And a way for the artist to make even less money.
>
> > Back to the topic. No, short of application-layer firewalling, which
> > would be horribly inconvenient for everyone and hugely intrusive,
> > gnutella can not be stopped.
>
> It depends on how you look at it. Check out Liquid Audio while you're
> researching, and see where the future really lies.
>
> > some other reasons. Be your own person and don't tell another man to
> > tell to govern you just because you feel like someone else should be
> > governed as well.
>
> A nice idea, but anyone over 12 knows it's not realistic. Next thing you'll
> be saying a 6 year-old knows what's best for him.
>
> > This point can be argued, but I don't think that MP3 files sound good at
> > all. They are decent, but they are not quite CD quailty. I think that
> MD
> > sounds better than MP3.
>
> Joe:
>
> I have found the same thing; MP3's sound OK but not as good as a CD.
>
> > It has been over a week and I still haven't received my copy!
>
> Yeah, well that's the downside of ordering it. Obviously.
>
>
> Cheers ML
>
>
=====
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