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Extra Tracks, & Moon's Fall



> I must respectfully disagree with you here Mark.  And to everybody else,
> I'm not trying to start up another one of those Who/Beatles debates.  If I
> was to follow what you were saying to the extreme, I would put 40 minutes
> of crappy music on a disc with 30 minutes of good music, just to fill out
> the full 78 minutes on the disc.

Bryce:

This is where it becomes a matter of perspective. Many people have come
in my store to trade the ANTHOLOGY discs because they thought they were
filled with "crappy music." Me, I like them (III is the weakest, IMHO,
mainly because I have better material from that period they didn't
include and know what it could have been).
To you, the extra cuts might be crappy music. To me they might be a
valuable look at the genesis (no Phil Collins content intended) of the
songs. A good example is the demos for She Said She Said, which are of
unimpressive sound quality but show the phases the song went through (as
well as some amusing alternate lyrics).
In any case, to include these songs wouldn't take away one thing you got
as they were released. So I still don't see a good reason why they were
left off. What if they had put the singles from the period on the end?
Would that have bothered you?

> Anthologys, I think the way they did it was the best way.

Didn't you feel the slightest bit cheated by the two CD singles, each of
which had three extra cuts not included on the ANTHOLOGYs (which had
plenty of room for them)? I did.
BTW, I also have all of the released CDs, as well as several hours of
bootleg material on CD and tape.

> want to do that, I'll listen to the Anthologys.  Don't you all think that
> Sgt. Pepper would be a little bit weird with a bunch of outtakes tacked
> onto the end of it?

No; I would have enjoyed them. Although, as Carolyn notes, an
instrumental verion of Within You Without You would have made me
angry...Hell, it DID anyway. I wasn't particularly pleased with newly
mixed "different" versions, either (like A Day In The Life & Penny Lane;
to my mind they're not legitimate contenders for the format).

> And oh yeah, why aren't there any outtakes on the end
> of Tommy?  Aren't there like 15 minutes left on the disc?

Why didn't they include any on QUAD, where they had a good 60 minutes
free? The same reason, I guess, and the same you seem to be championing:
the "integrity" of the original. They could have put the first three LP
sides of QUAD on one disc, the fourth on the second followed by demos,
unused songs, live versions...but NO...

> I don't think that the customers are showing any sign of being unhappy.  ;-)

I can tell you that in the last year, I almost always have a copy of one
(two? all three?) ANTHOLOGY CDs in here. The people who trade them in
are universally unhappy with them. How significant a percentage is this?
I can't say, but there ARE unhappy customers out there. And you have
seen unhappiness about the foreshortened albums even here on a Who list.

> Sorry I'm so late getting back to you, but better now than never....

Carolyn:

No problem; it's OK to have outside interests. We won't hold it against
you.

> Sad, isn't it, the peabrains that these people have?  Maybe it'll
> be a double disc?  We could hope.

Hope, yes, but think about this: they cut O&S back from a double disc
(still not enough for the amount of material left unreleased/out of
print) to a single. So the odds are very much against it. I can only
hope they include the cut they dropped, since there's room for it. If it
was me, I'd also drop the songs released elsewhere for material used in
the movie but not included on the disc (Shout And Shimmy, for instance).

> Hadn't heard of the alternate AAA

It's on a double album called THE STORY OF THE WHO, and I believe the
source is the French single. It's only a alternate vocal. The US version
of Substitute is more interesting; different lyrics.

> Hey, do you or anyone else
> here have a complete track list for ODDS?  I'd like to see "Dr.
> Jekyll & Mr. Hyde" on it

I don't have the track listing, but have been told DJ&MH will not be on
it. So that remains out of print, except on RARITIES (which is a
different version than on MAGIC BUS anyway).

> the live "Baby Don't You Do It".

I've also been told BDYDI will not be on. Again, RARITIES is your best
bet. It's still available, and I've seen it as an import online. Sorry I
don't remember where.

> here pointed out, it could've been worse.  But even if they'd in-
> cluded the stereo mixes on the first four discs.... <sigh>

You and I think alike on these matters. I have the Parliphone PLEASE
PLEASE ME on LP, which is in wonderful stereo and sounds ten times
better than the CD version.

> Not to mention wasting some valuable space on "karoke" versions
> of Eleanor Rigby and Within You, Without You.

I agree completely!!!

> I constantly thank God that I was able to snatch up WHO'S and TWO'S
> on CD before they were discontinued.

One can still get them used, so people should check their local used CD
stores (not an ad, folks). I've had them here, and a lot of other
Who/Townshend/Daltrey CDs as well.

> I can't do silly things like that anymore. <g>

There are always plenty of new silly things to do...

> That's a dream that I think will never become reality, sadly;

I believe I'm going to do what Rich T. suggests, since I'm THAT close (
// ) to getting a CDr (just deciding whether to go with a computer or
rack format), when he says:

> Hey, you could always press your own CD-ROM and become a bootlegger

Although not a BOOTLEGGER. I will make one for myself, and perhaps some
to trade with. None to sell (please take note any and all law
enforcement persons).

> I never read of this kind of speculation before.  Has anyone here have?

Jill:

This is the only story I've ever heard regarding his death.

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            Cheers                ML

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                                   Meher Baba