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Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V4 #38



The idiot who claimed to be a real fan is an idiot.  The trampling 
tradgedy happened at the Riverfront Coliseum not Riverfron 
Stadium....Riverfront Stadium is an outdoor stadium.  The show took place 
in December in an arena called the RIVERFRONT COLISEUM.. So buddy, you 
are a jackass not a REAL fan

On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, The Who Mailing List Digest wrote:

> 
> The Who Mailing List Digest
>  Thursday, February 13 1997 Volume 04 : Number 038
> 
> 
> 
> In this issue:
> 
> 	Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V4 #37
> 	LASER DISK OF ISLE OF WIGHT
> 	get with the 90's people
> 	The Who
> 	Casting Moon
> 	Responce to:  Frank & the Ox (And another plea for info.)
> 	[none]
> 	Re: Young people and the Who
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:55:16 -0600 (CST)
> From: Alan McKendree <amck@eden.com>
> Subject: Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V4 #37
> 
> On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, The Who Mailing List Digest wrote:
> 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:03:46 EDT
> > From: "Frank S. Corotto" <fcorotto@nugget.ngc.peachnet.edu>
> > Subject: young people have not heard of the Who
> > 
> > Hi.  I teach Biology at North Georgia College and today I was helping 
> > a student choose classes for next quarter.  He looked at my wall 
> > where I have a picture of Pete windmilling and asked "Who are the 
> > Who?"  Is it any wonder they couldn't sell out in Las Vegas?
> 
> This is unfortunate, but I think the lack of sellouts on the last tour
> was due more to poor promotion than ignorance on the part of the
> younger generation.  The $150 ticket prices in Las Vegas were a
> contributing factor there, too.
> 
> Personally, I would be thrilled to have a college student ask me "Who
> are the Who?"  I have literally trembled with excitement at getting to
> introduce someone to the music, assuming they were interested.
> Actually, I usually go the other way and take it slow it to be sure
> I'm not boring the other person.
> 
> > It's Pete's fault they are being forgotten.
> 
> Bullshit.  It's due to Pete (with essential contributions from many
> others) that they're remembered at all.  See below.
> 
>   They need a real, new 
> > album and a lot of hard work or their legacy will be lost with the 
> > newer generations.
> 
> I can't imagine what goes on in people's minds to make them say
> something like this.  You mean all they have to do is put out ONE more
> "real, new album" and do "a lot of hard work", and suddenly THEN
> they'll be big, THEN their legacy will be remembered and immortal?
> Crap.  In 5.3 years someone else will be saying EXACTLY the same
> thing: "Sure they were big back in 1997, but they better get their
> butts in gear and put out something new or they'll be forgotten."
> 
> Please.  The only thing putting out a new album will do is (hopefully)
> give the world some more great music.  The only thing a tour would do
> is allow more people to see them perform again (admittedly, a benefit
> to both sides of the stage).  But to claim that this is somehow
> necessary to avoid "losing their legacy" is just transparently false.
> The human race is going to go on for a long, long time and I venture
> to say that one more album will not determine whether or not The Who's
> music is going to live in its memory.  
> 
> Sadly, it's true that in the future there will be people who love the
> music but will not have the experience of seeing them perform, just as
> I was born too late to see them perform during what many older fans
> say was their peak, 1965-'68, but there's nothing to be done about
> that.
> 
> 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:20:35 -0500 (EST)
> > From: LARSPUMA@aol.com
> > Subject: Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V4 #36
> > 
> > I do not think that enough young people appreciate the great music that the
> > Who really performs.
> 
> Why should you care?  For that matter, I do not think that enough old
> people appreciate it.  On the other hand, the fewer people who
> appreciate it, the easier it is for me to get front-row tickets.
> 
> FWIW, I saw a girl in her early 20s last night with a Who jacket on.
> I asked her if she just found the jacket or was a Who fan.  Turns out
> she traveled to San Jose (from Austin) last October for Quad just like
> I did.
> 
>   In all seriousness music from the late 60's up to the
> > late 70's was really the greatest time for music.
> 
> Yeah.  Anyone born after 1975 should just have their ears taped shut,
> opened only to listen to The Who or listen to us old farts (over 40)
> talk about the good ol'days.  (:-), BTW).  (Is there such a thing as a
> young fart...?)
> 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:59:01 -0500 (EST)
> > From: BABAORILEY@delphi.com
> > Subject: The Who
> > 
> > I don't understand you people. The Who are and have been defunct as a group
> > for about 15 years now. How can you all still support something as dead in
> > the water as this band is ? They have done nothing new for us, and just 
> > keep repeating what they have put out in the past. Re-masters just to get
> > your money TWICE!  [blah, blah deleted]
> 
> I am treating this post as a "troll" (deliberate trap set to start
> flame wars, for those unfamiliar with the term), and as such best
> ignored.  The proposition that it might be serious is too bogus to
> contemplate.
> 
> - --
> Alan McKendree        amck@eden.com        512-478-9900 x206
> Adhesive Media, 101 W. 6th St., Ste. 210, Austin, TX   78701
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:39:32 -0800
> From: Beau McCrury <Beau.McCrury@ucop.edu>
> Subject: LASER DISK OF ISLE OF WIGHT
> 
> Hello everyone, my name is Beau and this is my first 
> posting to the list.  I've been monitoring the list for
> about six months now and enjoy it very much.  Being that I'm
> new to this whole internet thing I didn't want to jump in
> like I knew what I was doing.  Anyway, being that I am new
> please feel free to send suggestions/ criticisms my way.
> 
> I thought this was a particularly good time to start
> contributing to this list since the posting last week or
> so criticizing you guys on your posts.  Well I'll stand up
> for ya!  Given some posts are better than others but it
> sure is grand to know that there are people out there that
> are a little whoie too.
> 
> Now to the good stuff.  I recently rented a laser disk 
> copy of 'The Who Live At The Isle of Wight Festival 1970'.
> Vital signs are 1996 Pulsar Productions Inc., Warner Music
> Vision, AMLY-8086 if anyone is so inclined.  It runs for
> about 85 minutes of good quality video and sound.  The 
> first side has various singles performed, Heaven And Hell,
> Water, Young Man Blues etc.  and side two has most of
> Tommy.  Being that I understand our boys didn't start there
> set until 2 am and not finish until around 4:30 this disk
> is obviously incomplete.  I can't be sure of the order of
> the song list but is seems to me that the way the disk is
> arranged the fist and last part of the concert is on side
> one thus leaving side two for the Tommy songs.  Overall I
> thought it was excellent!  One little thing is that it
> has some kind of asian subtitling, either Chinese or 
> perhabs Japanese, not in every place, just when they have
> dialog between songs and for there introduction at the
> beginning.
> 
> The most charming/ silly part of the whole disk was at the
> very end.  Here is Keith in the area of the concert that
> looks like where the RV's and buses of the people who were
> working the concert.  He's got a rubber clown mask with a
> big nose that goes down over his cheeks, exposing his lips
> and jaw and on his head a rubber axe with blood looking 
> like it's part way into his skull.  His cheeks are drawn in
> and lips puckered out like a fish face and of course a
> brandy in one hand.  And during all of this a recording of
> Rog singing 'Tommy can you hear me...'  God I miss Keith,
> what a sweety.  A weird sweety but those are the best kind.
> 
> I don't know what availability is like of this footage on
> tape but do look for it.  It's worth it!
> 
> By for now.  You guys are great!
> 
> Beau.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:01:04 -0800
> From: Cain@webtv.net (K Kane)
> Subject: get with the 90's people
> 
> Baba, re: 
> Give up...get with the 90's people..
> 
> I hear this phrase a lot, and yet no-one has ever quite explained to me
> what it meant.  Does it mean that we institute a sort of cultural
> euthenasia?  Or that we dismiss the music of the past in order to
> accomodate the music of the present?  As far as I'm concerned, whatever
> point you might have made about the Who's exploitation of their past is
> undermined by three things: 1. The Who are still a vital live unit,
> playing the most challenging work (Quadrophenia) of their career; 2. The
> reissued CD's are for the most part a great improvement over the
> insultingly bad CD reissues of the 80's; 3. Idiotic, meaningless
> statements like "get with the 90's people" confuse your point.  
> 
> I, for one, would like to know how dismissing the Who would somehow make
> me better attuned to "the 90's".  Until then, I think I'm going to
> listen to the superb "Sell Out" reissue and reminisce about the
> wonderful experience of seeing "Quadrophenia" on stage for the first
> time.
> 
> Brian V., who at 25, is living very much in the             90's
> "This song is called 'It's Alright Ma, I'm Only Bleeding, Ho Ho Ho'"
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:45:38 -0500
> From: "KATHLEEN L. PASQUALE" <105612.1051@compuserve.com>
> Subject: The Who
> 
> First I would like to take care of the important issue.
> 
> Jennifer asked about touring info.  Just stay tuned to the list and you'll
> get all the ticket info you need.  Ken Guilford who sent the original post
> will keep everyone updated as well as others who are good at digging up
> that info.
> 
> My next comments are for "BABA".
> 
> First; I don't know how you can claim to be a fan.  Anyone who truly
> follows knows that the 1979 tragedy happened not at MSG but at Riverfront
> Stadium in Cinncinnati and to say that the Band didn't give a shit is just
> completely wrong.  They were completely torn up about the incident and if
> you were around then and read or saw any of the interviews you would know
> that.
> 
> And what the hell does "get with the 90's" mean.  Just because Hendrix,
> Joplin, Led Zepp (I could go on but won't) haven't done anything new I
> should stop listening and appreciating their contribution.  We are talking
> about true legends here who have made a huge contribution to the 90's music
> scene.  If you don't believe me just go look up an interview of Eddie
> Veder's and see what he has to say about who influenced him.
> 
> Quad was always one of their most challanging albums to perform and because
> of that the four of them couldn't perform it live to the satisfaction of
> the group.  Them coming back with this in the way they did was a god send
> for many of us.  Quad being one of my favorites and only getting to hear
> 5:15 & LROM at other concerts I thought it was great to see performed
> complete.
> 
> And as far as your comment about them being old farts.  Well I hate to tell
> you honey;  WE ARE ALL GETTING OLDER & WE ALL AIN'T WHAT WE USE TO
> BE....EVEN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!    I can tell you from experience that THE WHO
> are doing a whole lot better than two other ancient british bands.  The one
> keeps putting out any new crap they can & tour even though the lead singer
> hasn't been able to sing a note since the early 80's and the lead guitarist
> looks like he should be taking a dirt nap.  The other one grinds out 2
> songs with left over tape from a dead man and call that new; talk about
> money hungry.
> 
> Well; you have your opinions and I have mine.  Hope I haven't offended
> anyone.  If I have I'm sure I'll read about it.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 97 15:24:55 EST
> From: <Elaine.Crann@analog.com> (Elaine Crann)
> Subject: Casting Moon
> 
> To Henry Gambill and whomever else:
> 
> My husband has volunteered to play Keith Moon.  He plays the drums and says 
> he'll take acting lessons.  He even said he would do it for free and pay 
> his own expenses.  He feels he is Keith's (the drummer and the person) 
> biggest fan.  He and his bandmates play every weekend and he bases all his 
> "work/style" on that of Keith.  I know he can act as crazy as Keith did so 
> that wouldn't be a problem either.     
> 
> Elaine
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:03:11 -0500
> From: jennifer fox <jfox@mail.slc.edu>
> Subject: Responce to:  Frank & the Ox (And another plea for info.)
> 
>      First in response to Frank, I'm a nineteen year old college student and
> love the Who-so don't despair, many people of my generation love the Who and
> do consider them to be what they truly are-the greatest rock band that ever was.
>      As for the Ox's attack against the Who, I'd like to ask 1.)Why the hell
> are you apart of this mailing list if you feel that way; and 2.)I challenge
> you to present anything better musically in the rock genre than what the Who
> has done! In my opinion, why should I listen to the cheap imitation, rip off
> garbage that is being generated today, when I can go straight to the source
> and listen to the truly great stuff?   I think you'd better question your
> own judgement as opposed to the rest of us.
>       As for their up coming tour, again I'd like to remind those who are in
> the know to please remember (if you haven't already) tell me the best way to
> find out when tickets go on sale.   Being only nineteen, I've never had the
> privilage of seeing them live, and would be immensely disappointed if I
> missed my chance.
> 
> Jennifer
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:22:48 -0500
> From: jennifer fox <jfox@mail.slc.edu>
> Subject: [none]
> 
>      I just remembered that I'd also wanted to ask anyone if they knew of a
> place or good source where I might find some Who posters (I go to Sarah
> Lawrence College, and therefore am in close proximity to New York City).
> Also, does anyone know if the Who fanzine "Generations" is still in
> existence, and if so, do you know how I might go about getting a subscription.
> 
> JEnnifer Fox
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:18:28 -0500 
> From: salamander@MADNET.COM
> Subject: Re: Young people and the Who
> 
> I was pretty surprised to see all the messages about there not being
> enough young Who fans, considering how nasty many people on this list
> (not to mention the newsgroup, Who areas on major online services, etc.)
> are to almost anyone under 21. Where do you champions of the youthful
> Who fan hide when these folks come crawling out of the woodwork? I doubt
> that a change in attitude would increase the number of teenaged Who fans
> out there, but it what few there are make themselves known if they were
> treated a little nicer. Not everyone can be a flinty-eyed ice princess
> like me, after all. :)
> 
> 
>       -Yellow "Insert favorite line from 'My Generation' here" Ledbetter
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