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Re[2]: The Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame is Full of Shit.



Abbubica writes:
>Chris writes:
>>I personally think the Rock and Roll hall of fame is full of 
>>shit. 
>I agree 100%.  It is an homage to those who have made cash for record 
>companies.  And even when a group such as the who is included, they choose 
>to represent that band with the heavy radio play songs; even if these 
>songs are among the groups weaker material.  Would you rathe have "Behind 
>Blue Eyes", "Pinball Wizard", and My Generation" representing the Who; or 
>"However Much I Booze",  "Sparks", and "A Quick One While He's Away". 
>Personally, I am sick to death of the first list of songs, and the only 
>reason that these are "typical who songs" in the first place is due to 
>heavy-radio-play-to-the-point-of-vomiting.  There are much better Who 
>songs (such as those I mentioned) that more "represent" the Who.
          
>I also get the feeling that the Who's inclusion was more or less 
>gratuitous. I know this sounds wierd, after all it's the Who: the greatest 
>Rock and Roll band ever.  But that is exactly my point!  I just have this 
>feeling that the induction comitee kind of said. "well it's the Who, they 
>get played on classic rock stations.  Yeah, I remember that song...Pinball 
>Wizard.  Isn't Tommy playing on broadway."  Well you get the picture.  I 
>know its pesimistic, but remember: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is Full 
>of Shit.
          
While I agree with part of your argument (the wrong songs were chosen), I 
have to disagree with a couple things.  Despite their heavy airplay, I 
would hardly consider "Baba" or "MG" among the band's weaker material.  
Just because "Stairway to Heaven" got played to death (still does) doesn't 
mean that it was a bad song, nor does it mean that it has ever failed to 
raise goosebumps when Page takes off on that solo.  Surprisingly enough, 
occasionally the mass populace gets a clue and recognizes brilliant work 
(see Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon or Pearl Jam's first album).
          
The problem as I see it is the Who's songs really took a whole new life 
when played live.  The band recognized very early that they would be trying 
to reproduce their live sound on record, rather than the other way around, 
as it was with most bands.  TKAA's version of "Baba" is on a whole 'nother 
level from the one on Who's Next 

Kevin, I truly believe the Baba from TKAA stinks, I have yet to hear a good 
Moon version of Baba--but then I haven't heard all the bootlegs. Is there a 
good Moon version of this song out there?  Did they play it that much when 
Moonie was alive? 

Generation" from Leeds is from another planet entirely.  This goes back to 
my earlier post about how I see the Who's biggest influence on the 
evolution of music:  intensely meaningful emotion slammed in your face like 
a freight train.  Truly the embodiment of the spirit of Rock & Roll.
          
I'm convinced that any selection for the R&R Hall should have been taken 
from TKAA (Baba, WGFA, Roadrunner) Woodstock (Young Man Blues, Sparks) or 
Leeds (YMB, Substitute, Shakin' All Over, MG [especially the version of 
Sparks contained within], Magic Bus).

Well, on this point we disagree.  TKAA has some good material on it, but 
the Shepperton Studio stuff that they did shortly before Moon died is not 
representative of their better live work.  I agree that the Who live was a 
special new life form, but we're still talking influential to others, not 
representative of the band's best stuff.  I think this point has not been 
fully appreciated by many who've joined in on this commentary.  I think 
the material the Who's most noted for is still stuido cuts.  
          
As for the Hall itself, I think the name of the place should've been the 
Museum of Modern Popular Music, as that's what it appears to be to me.  I'm 
torn between the appreciation that is finally being shown to some of these 
people, and the fact that Rock has been officially institutionalized.  I 
have my OWN R&R Hall of Fame, and it is located in my head, my heart and my 
record collection.
          
          To some extent rock was institutionalized long ago with the 
          Grammys, which still do not appreciate real rock music (re: 
          the Who have won no Grammys for stuido or live material).  
          Your "Museum of Modern Popular Music" would also have to 
          include jazz and country music because they are also 
          "popular."  I don't think those areas belong in a rock hall 
          of fame.  --Jim
OK,
KLW