Re:Jimmys fight that Fang won't quit.

[QuietOne <drjimmy@cnj.digex.net>]

> 
> Little Jimmy, re:
> 
> Let's address several comments, shall we? Once again your facts are seriously
> out of order.

Ok, WAngry Li't Twit.

> 
> >"who cares about john lennon"
> 
> >You are making a far too big deal over someone making a one line comment,
> almost 2 weeks ago.
> 
> Sorry, don't recall saying that one. I may have joined in to support one of
> my friend's comments, but I would have said something more to the effect of
> "death is probably better than Yoko", but not that. I post a lot, but try not
> to hold me accountable for other people's words or posts. Personally, I don't
> care if it's John Lennon's birthday or John Entwistle's (sorry)...

I never even thought about it being Lennons B'day, till I saw someone
post it. And I think that the person who posted it did it with some
type of assumption that there were other people that may have liked
the Beatles growing up, or still may. I don't think that that was or
is a far fetched notion. When this persons post was commented with
"Lennon Shemmon, who cares, its Entiwstles birthday", all I did was,
in a spur or the moment thing, said that I cared. I wasn't going to   
go into some "I can't beleive he is still dead" or "the Beatles are
still more popular than the Who"  rant. I only started to rant when you
started to put other things into the conversation that really were not
neccessary. LIke telling a freind about German cars as opposed to some
domestic jalopy that he was still driving. You really picked up all the
wrong vibes from what was said orignally. It was an off the cuff remark
I made about John Lennon. Whhhhoooopppeeee!!!! Your comments were only 
suitable in a conversation where I would be comparing the two groups
somehow. There was no such topic started by me. You were too defensive
when there was really no oppostion.
> 
> > It wasnt meant to make me look like some type of fanatic Beatle fan, as
> fanatic as you probably would be if someone said that Townshend was a fucking
> queer in a converation. Thats what this is, a discussion list. If you dont
> like the fact that other groups come up...
> 
> Try not to put words in my mouth. People can say whatever they like about
> Pete Townshend. (or any other public figure) What you don't understand is,

Cool. But you really would not even add a "one line comment" to the person
who said something total derogatory about Townshend? I would hope that 
since you are a fan of the mans work that you may chime in and say something
back. This is just natural. Whether it be a major arguement or just a passing
comment.      

Thats all I did.  

> there's a difference in discussing Pete Townshend and me. People are entitled
> to their opinions. If someone attacks Pete, I'll defend Pete, but I won't get

But you attacked me. You were making comments to the effect of "they are
old and washed up and boring, only the Who are good" or "what, do you think
that the beatles are girls?"

> upset about it and "attack" the writer. You don't seem to understand the
> difference between attacking an opinion and the person making it. I've
> "argued" with hundreds of people over Star Trek: The Next Generation. There
> was an episode, "Darmok", which most fans of the show absolutely loved. When
> I said "it stunk" and why it stunk, and they began attacking me "personally"
> for my opinion. Why? Because in their "p-brains" they began questioning
>  themselves that maybe the stupid episode was "flawed". People have said
> "Psychoderelict" stinks. I think it's a masterpiece. I'll argue the point to
> death, but I'm not going to attack you personally for your opinion. It's
> unfortunate that some people can't see the difference and are insecure in
> their own opinions enough to get rattled when someone else comes along and
> gives them another, different opinion to think about... Can you tell us what
> you liked about "Darmok"?

Can you tell me where I was defending the Beatle ? I was defending MYSELF
for liking the Beatles. I was the one who was the joker for even bringing
them up in this list. My whole point was that I once listened to the music,
liked some of the stuff that they did, and was glad that I listened to the
Beatles because they were the first "rock" that I knew. John Lennon wrote
some nice things ( stuff for another list ) but, if he never did, who knows
what other music I would have adapted as a younger person. The Beatles were
a stepping stone to the Who. And I have yet to find reason to go a step higher.
I am a full fledged Who fan. But I can't just forget alll the music I liked
as a kid. And thus, today, I still remember the Beatles for being there then,
and the time that I discovered the Who.
> 
> >If you dont like the fact that other groups come up from time to time...
> 
> I could care less what groups come up in conversation. If I have a strong
> opinion (ie Phil Collins or Paul McCartney) I'll add my opinion, if not, I'll
> do what any other list member does: reply or ignore it. 

It sure seemed that you jumped right in when I was telling your "freind"
jim that there are people who liked the Beatles in their early life.
There was no comparison being made, but you went ahead and assumed that
I was the heavy. That there was some beef. There wasnt. There are alot of
people that liked the beatles to some extent in their life and would have
made the same comment I made. Who list or no Who list.

> 
> >THese people that I told were wrong about you talking to much are in
> reality, correct.
> 
> Thanks for the defense. Where were you when OJ needed you? Are you really
> Johnie Cochran? I'm having a real tough time "defending" myself against you.
> Say... are you an attorney? High school student? Paper boy?

No,I'm a stubborn asshole. I learn from masters like you. 
> 
> >Perhaps you didnt see the "koo koo ka joob" at the end of the messages. It
> was put there to stress that I was just playing with you 2.
> 
> Sometimes people can be so clever that even the most simple things just goes
> right over my head. I was soooo upset over those "hidden messages" that I got
> out my old vinyl Beatle albums and started playing them backwards. I'm really
> happy that you cleared that up for me. I remember when "Abbey Road" came out
> and the rumor was "Paul Is Dead". Too bad I didn't know you back then. You
> could have helped me with that one too...

BAck to the sarcasm. I try ny best to explain what the whole deal is, but 
you feel the need to play  MachoCyberMan and talk and talk and talk....
By the way, the rumor started when Yesterday and Today came out.....I thought
you said  you knew more than me ?
> 
> >You truly are a total fucking loud mouth prick.
> 
> Whoops! Can't argue with you on that one! I was going to get out my "do it
> yourself hari-kari kit", but I figured you may want to borrow it. Let me
> update the "score card" instead... (I think these points may have put you in
> the lead!)

Dude, turn down Tommy and take the Daltrey wig off. Your head is getting to
tight. Go write your little letter to Bill Curbishley and make the whole
catalog change for every Who freak in the world, and we can all come by
and do windmills by your house. The one that you bought with the cadillac.

> 
> Now, would you like to continue this? I usually don't offer free therapy. I
> may have to start charging you. What form of payment would your parents
> prefer? I'd prefer to talk about The Who. The ball's in your court... 

And I'm shooting every 1/2 court shot I can and all you hear is Swish,,,,,

I was expecting that "your a child, I'm an adult" comment sooner or
later. You really must be an expert at flames on that star trek
list. Do you have attitude problems in non-email environments as well ?

If you really feel the need to rant and rave more, then, email me. 

I know that you are getting some rocks off by posting these things
to the whole list, and I am guilty of the same thing. But if you really
want to annoy just me, then email me.  

DINNNNNG!!!! your 15 minutes of flame is up....Now back to being the 
WhoMaven that we all know you are. The self appointed Grand Pooba
of The Alright Kids Klan. The one who no one dares mention anything
even fractionally unrelated to the Who without ye Holy tirade. 
> 
> WF <~ "...the good's gone out of our love..."
> 
DrJimmy.<- "We have the same old row(sp?), again and again...."