Re: doing unplugged

["Ian M. Derby" <csc2imd@cabell.vcu.edu>]

> I think the oscillations between opinions here seem to be dampening nicely.  
> 
> I am category 1-2 with a rocket.
> There is about a 90 dB/decade slope in my likes after that.  On the Chuck Berry, Daltrey is the latest who
> is guilty, but Townshend's been doin' it for awhile - since the mid 70's.  And the quality of the Sea Refuses No
> River STILL does not excuse talking about slit skirts - the dirty deed is done. Wasp Man?  That's Moon anyhow...
> I LOVE Waspman!!!!!. Good drummers (aside from Moon, none of those you mentioned fall into that category for me)
> being, by definition, unkonown to the majority of the populace, haven't been heard by you or by Pete yet.  My 
> friend Sam Henry of Napalm Beach would play in the Who and would need/elicit/invoke no comparison to Moon, yet
> would be strangely enough an excellent fit.  And there are others, oh yes there verily are.  The dude from 
> SoundGarden (live - his studio stuff is a bit repressed though clever) is a slight hint of what could be....

The Chuck Berry thing (which started on the '75 tour I think is
what you mean) was a band decision.  In fact Roger was really behind
cranking the numbers out like a machine, as a well oiled professional
engine. Kind of like today's Rolling Stones' tours.  They were so
anti-backing tapes after Quad that the experience changed them from then on.
Screw trying to expand our live music.  Quad could've been played without 
the silly things, thats what frustrates me.  We can be thankful that they 
still improvised.  It was the farewell tour in '82 where they abandonded 
any free form, and I shun any footage or music from that tour
like the plague.


Actually Wasp Man was Entwistle, so I'll use the first "Dogs".  (to
me it's hard to think of a BAD song by Pete, that's why WM came into
my mind first, I just hate it).  Im a big Moon fan, he was my first 
major influence as a drummer.  However I can find many negatives to 
him over most drummers.  The fact that he was a total original clears 
him of all his wrongs.  Whether you see it or not, Carl Palmer would be a nice
fit.  (I really don't care about some guy in a local bar band, this is 
reality---I might as well nominate myself, I know I could do it) 
I also don't know your definition of good, but I trust my own tastes.
He's far from stiff, uses his kit with taste, could play Pete's more
complex time signatures (to Keith that was anything out of 4/4, ie
6/8) with great ease.  

I guess we'll just have to agree on the fact that Jones wasn't the
man cutout to fill in. 

> 
> MTV has lost a lot of their luster, but if I limit myself to Alternative Nation and Beavis and Butthead (all
> the spinoff cartoons suck) I like it MUCH better than in '81.  Least I don't have to see those two dude in
> the Who which matching blow-dried hairdos.

I don't know why, but I still long for the funny videos and the
Saturday night concerts.  

> Yeah I'm not saying I liked what was going on even before Moon's death.  Maybe he and Townshend could've gone 
> into rehab and took a few years off to kind of freshen up a bit.  I sensed a bit of drama and urgency in the
> '79 tour, but it would've really been better with Moon.  A fitting end would've been Quadrophenia.
> 

The way Moon was playing on the Who Are You album, the '79 tour
would've been a joke.  He lost his sence of time.  Whether it was
the alchohol I don't know, but Moon lost that ablity to do a long drum
fill and come back on the beat.  If not that he was afraid or unable
to take those risks he accomplished so well in his prime.  Relying
on his simple beats sounded so weak. 


Again I guess I'm one of the rare ones who actually puts Who By
Numbers near the top of the list.  I still think Who Are You needed
to be done.  The direction PT was heading in 1978 would've been a
lot better than Face Dances had things been able to stay together.  
Afterall, think of Empty Glass as a Who album.