Mike, I believe that the look he was looking for wasn't achieved when he finally mounted the rims/tires on his '99 A4 Golf 4 door. Also, he has a nasty habit of not being satisfied for a long period of time with any rims that has purchased. In the last 15 months, he has auditioned 7 set of different rims. Take Care, David Kim 1997 Vento GLX