Hey Jim, Damn... I just got the regular Mintex redbox pads from Autotech a few weeks ago. Are the C-Techs suitable for normal use? Eric Wang 1994 Black Vento VR6 -- Eibach Pro-Kit, Remus cat-back exhaust, Autotech Q-Chip, K&N drop-in filter, Mintex Redbox pads ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com