What year did the Jetta/// start? '94? Would that make my '97 a Vento v3.4? :-) Thanks, John - -- John A. Kilpatrick Systems Administrator kilpatri@mti.sgi.com Silicon Graphics Inc., MIPS Group Work: (650) 933-4387 Pager: (650) 428-6218 "Kick! Punch! It's all in the mind..."