OBDIII (Was: Re: doh! -Reply)

["Stack" <stack@cchono.com>]

All of the OBDIII rumours that is going around is not totally
false.  I read in several magazines (incl. scc ec & turbo) that
the OBDIII movement is backed by CARB.  All of the functions
mentioned - including the use of sattelites to determine speed,
location, and engine monitoring - was mentioned.  Some of the
reasons CARB used was to crack down on speeders, stolen
cars and air pollution.  Its sad to see an institution whose main
purpose is to clean up the air - clean up (kill) the after market
industry.  I will try to look up the articles in the magazines I
have to back up what I am saying.  BE SCARED!!

Stanton '95glx

BTW: OBDIII will know exactly what modifications were
done to the car (ie no swapping chips for warranty).

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Cleland <cleland@stlnet.com>
To: jettaglx@igtc.COM <jettaglx@igtc.COM>
Date: Friday, August 07, 1998 11:23 AM
Subject: RE: doh! -Reply


>If any of you knows *anything* about GPS, it is a system for determining
>position relative to several (17?) satellites around the globe.  It is a
>one-way system, i.e. the satellites transmit their info to the receivers
>(GPS units, etc), not the other way around.  The part in this message about
>the car talking back to *anything* is complete BS and speculation.  I have
>heard before that there would be some GPS integration into the next-gen
OBD,
>but nothing as ridiculous as this.  I *think* GPS can also determine
>altitude as well, so possibly the ECU could benefit from some knowledge of
>the car's altitude.  The other thing I heard (more speculation) was that
the
>GPS functionality could be used to verify that emissions related work was
>being performed at an *authorized* service location, determined by
Lat/Long.
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Matt Cleland cleland@stlnet.com
>98 Jetta GLX
>Black/Biber
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-jettaglx@igtc.COM [mailto:owner-jettaglx@igtc.COM]On Behalf
>> Of Greg_Coombs@esd.tracor.com
>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 1998 2:31 PM
>> To: jettaglx@igtc.COM
>> Subject: FW: doh! -Reply
>>
>>
>>      I sent the info about the new VW warranty enforcement to a
>> friend and
>>      he sent me back this info.  Pretty shocking.
>>
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>> Also, the new OBD-III will be hooked into GPS.  It records top speed
>> information, location on whereabouts, and also be hooked into the OBD-III
>> chip.  When the OBD-III sensor is tripped and the 'check engine' light is
>> engaged, this information is also sent to the GPS satellite.  The DMV can
>> query this information, and retrieve top vehicle speeds and if they are
>> excessive, report them to the insurance company through VIN
>> interpretation.  They can also send you a letter stating to get your
>> emissions checked by the tripped check engine light, and you will have to
>> go to the emissions station and get it rectified.
>>
>> Law enforcement benefits:
>>
>> during a high speed chase, if that may be the case, they officer can
>> relay your tag# to an onboard computer system hooked into GPS.  The
>> GPS can then tap into your ECU, and either slow you down or
>> temporarily disable the vehicle.
>>
>> Suck's eh?
>>
>