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RE: random things make you say Hmmmm
I think the more important point with respect to impact is whether or
not Pierce has a positive or negative one with respect to Ainge's
vision/plan.
Once that is determined then the Celtics will have a better idea of whom
they might/should trade.
- Ravi
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-celtics@xxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-celtics@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Shawn Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:16 AM
To: jozersky@xxxxxxxxxx; markp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; celtics@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: random things make you say Hmmmm
I really like Welsch too and don't want him going anywhere. However, if
packaging him with 2 draft picks brings back a 2nd impact type player to
go
along with Pierce, I think you have to do it.
>From: "Josh Ozersky" <jozersky@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "Shawn Niles" <shizzjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <markp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
><celtics@xxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: random things make you say Hmmmm
>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:59:35 -0500
>
>Not Welsch -- you need his IQ and upside. Ricky, with his bad rep, is
>undervalued around the league; I say Mihm.
>
>Josh
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Shawn Niles" <shizzjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jozersky@xxxxxxxxxx>; <markp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
><celtics@xxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:42 AM
>Subject: Re: random things make you say Hmmmm
>
>
> > For these reasons I firmly believe that Ainge will not use all 3
> > draft picks. I think he will package at least 2 of them, along with
> > a current player on the roster(Welsch?, Davis?, Mihm?), to try and
> > bring back an impact player. He can then use the 3rd draft pick on a
> > young big man if
>he
> > likes. It is just too obvious that the last thing this team needs is
>three
> > more very young players. Ainge has to realize this too.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Josh Ozersky" <jozersky@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: "Mark Piotrowski" <markp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Celtics"
> > ><celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> > >Subject: Re: random things make you say Hmmmm
> > >Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:14:15 -0500
> > >
> > >Just had a quick look at nbadraft.net....I can't remember the last
> > >time I was this unexcited about a draft. We already have major
> > >development projects on this team who haven't gotten enough
> > >minutes, and this draft seems top heavy with finesse baby KG types
> > >and unproven point guards. What I would like to see is a
> > >Boozer-like animal, a tough-as-nails hungry, aggressive player,
> > >with a ready made game. A guard like this would be good too, an
> > >Artest / Quentin Richardson type. At the top, Ekafor is the only
> > >prospect that turns me on, because a major shotblocker is the one
> > >thing that could really turn the Celtics around. He's only 6 9"
> > >but so was Bill Russell. As for the usual crop of "next gasols" I
> > >think I'll pass. Those guys need the ball a lot to develop, and
> > >they won't get that in Boston. Bring me ready-made players at this
> > >stage, from good programs with real coaches. You can draft
> > >unskilled freak athletes with the low picks.
> > >
> > >Josh
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Mark Piotrowski" <markp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: "Celtics" <celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:39 AM
> > >Subject: random things make you say Hmmmm
> > >
> > >
> > > > -- don't know if anyone caught Inside the NBA after the Warriors
>upset
> > > > of the Spurs, but they had John Thompson interviewing Yao Ming
> > > > and Patrick Ewing. Ewing & Ming were sitting next to each other
> > > > and it demonstrated just how BIG Ming is. Ewing looked like a
> > > > guard
>sitting
> > > > next to Yao (imagine say Mark Jackson sitting next to Ewing) --
>easily
> > > > a foot shorter than Ming. It was incredible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -- Its easy to forget that Ricky Davis is still so young and
> > > > still growing as a player -- which is scary. In fact did you
> > > > realize he's only a year & 2 months older than Brandon Hunter?
> > > > And only 4 months older than Jiri Welsch? It's so sad that the
> > > > national media just
>goes
> > > > on and on about Davis being a cancer -- as if people can never
>change.
> > > > Paul Silas was on PTI yesterday and "wouldn't touch" Bob Ryan's
> > > > question about sticking it to the Celts by trading them Davis.
> > > >
> > > > I love Davis' play since coming here, especially his passing,
> > > > his (vastly underrated) midrange game, his hustle and diving on
> > > > the
>floor
> > > > and his sheer enthusiasm. Ricky has a schtick. He's part
>streetballer
> > > > (caught him on ESPN2 late Saturday playing a few years back with
> > > > the And1 crew), but all these media types (like Tony Kornheiser,
> > > > Stephen
>A.
> > > > Smith, etc.) want to destroy him b/c of it -- as if they didn't
> > > > have
>a
> > > > schtick and as if their's weren't more irritating.
> > > >
> > > > I see no reason -- and I mean this sincerely -- that Ricky Davis
>can't,
> > > > given 32-36 mins a night, produce at the level of Antoine
> > > > Walker's
>avg.
> > > > over his last 2 years here. (21 pt, 8 reb, 5 asst, 1.5 stl).
> > > > Maybe Davis could only get 6 reb a game, but he's as good -- if
> > > > not
>better --
> > > > a passer as Walker (though, ironically, less flashy), hustles
> > > > more,
>and
> > > > shoots a much higher FG% (48.2 since coming to Boston).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -- current draft standings: 12, 24 (DAL), 25 (DET)
> > > >
> > > > NBA Draft.net:
> > > > 12 - Josh Childress (6-7 SG Stanford) though Kosta Perovic (7-2
> > > > C
> > > > Serbia) is at #13 (portland)
> > > > 24 - Rashad McCants (6-3 SG, N. Carolina)
> > > > 25 - Rafael Araujo (6-11 C, BYU)
> > > >
> > > > Personally I couldn't see Ainge taking a SG at 24...I think he
> > > > goes
>big
> > > > with both the 24 & 25 picks, unless there is a surprise slider.
> > > > 7-3
>Ha
> > > > Seung-Jin (S. Korea) is slated at 27 (San Antonio) and HS PF Al
> > > > Jefferson (6-8) at 30.
> > > >
> > > > 42 - Timmy Bowers (6-2 PG, Miss. St.).
> >
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