From: "Sean Giovanello" <sgiovanello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Shawn Niles'" <shizzjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>,<Celtic4Hire@xxxxxxx>,<celtics@xxxxxxxx>
CC: <celticsstuffgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Twan rearing his ugly head
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 23:09:21 -0500
I don't think its grasping at straws. Every deal has plusses and minuses for each team involved. The Mavs reasons for this deal were very different than the Celts.
Walker has some worth to them on the court and admittedly he is playing bad now. However, he really represents 2 years for 28 millions versus 5 years and 50+. That's basically some real cap room for the Mavs. It clears up a mistake for them and allows the Mavs to resign Nash if they want to this summer.
For the Celts, we took on a long term cost in Raef for a short term gain (cap room in the short term) and hopefully production more along the lines of what Danny wants.
I am not dissing Danny on this deal - though I still don't think it was the right one. I am just pointing out that Dallas had very different reasons for wanting this deal and that in weighing whether it works for them it makes sense to look at it from multiple perspectives. However, I doubt you will do that. You have your script and endlessly you stick to it.
-----Original Message----- From: Shawn Niles [mailto:shizzjr@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:50 PM To: sgiovanello@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Celtic4Hire@xxxxxxx; celtics@xxxxxxxx Cc: celticsstuffgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Twan rearing his ugly head
Now you're really grasping at straws. That's ok though. At some point you'll come over from the dark side and realize the error of your ways.
>From: "Sean Giovanello" <sgiovanello@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <Celtic4Hire@xxxxxxx>, <celtics@xxxxxxxx> >CC: <celticsstuffgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: RE: Twan rearing his ugly head >Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 19:52:53 -0500 > >I think its easy enough for Dallas to justify. > >1) We got rid of a huge mistake deal that is a long term one. 5 years >50 million still to go for Raef. That's a big contract to lose. > >2) We took on a guy who has 1 year and an option left. > >3) We gave up a pretty worthless draft pick - for the Mavs that is. > >4) A contract that a rich owner doesn't really care about. > >5) A good role player in Jiri (for them he would not start). > >We will be living with the good and bad of this trade for 5 more years. >They will be out from under it at the latest by next year. Further, >they will be able to resign Nash knowing they will only be under the >Walker deal for one more year if he exercises the option. While it >might seem stupid if he didn't - Walker is a prideful guy and just might >be willing to take 6 to play 40 minutes a night rather than 14 for 28 a >night... > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-celtics@xxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-celtics@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf >Of Celtic4Hire@xxxxxxx >Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:24 PM >To: celtics@xxxxxxxx >Cc: celticsstuffgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Twan rearing his ugly head > >They are now justifying the trade here in Dallas as LaFrentz was going >to be injured anyways, had a bad contract and they can trade Walker next >year with the expiring contract.... > >DJessen33 > ><It's hard to see Antoine opting out of his big contract for next year, >but despite his struggles of late, he's a valuable commodity in a >trade. This is not because of his ability on the court, it's because >of that massive expiring contract. >Dallas as always, will be willing to take on contracts, and can get >talent from a team looking for a big reduction in cap space. It >appears they are souring on Walker, and will surely have plenty >of opportunities to trade him over the summer or in the early part >of the season. > >--Andy>
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