Re: is there...

[Ryan W <ubiquitous_am_i@xxxxxxxxx>]

Well said, Kim.  Hopefully it puts this conversation
to rest....

Ryan
--- Kim Malo <kimmalo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> At 02:57 PM 11/8/2003, CeltsSteve@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >In a message dated 11/8/03 10:54:39 AM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> >shizzjr@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> > > As for Pierce and Walker being held to different
> standards, there''s a 
> > reaso
> > > n for that. Pierce is 10 times the player Walker
> is. You don't hear people
> > > comparing Walter McCarty to Tim Duncan and so we
> shouldn't hear anyone 
> > compare
> > > Walker to Pierce.
> >
> >Walker is gone. It's all on Paul these days, Shawn.
> >
> >Hey, Brenda/Egg:  The list is awaiting one of your
> classic, scripted macros
> >on "flawed logic"  re: Shawn's post. :-)
> 
> Oh come on Steve, have a heart. I'm still trying to
> choke down Walker is to 
> Pierce as McCarty is to Duncan.
> Why is it that they seem to be so damned polarizing
> - to 'fans' of either, 
> any criticism, no matter how valid, of their
> favorite is bashing and any 
> praise, no matter how valid, of the other is blind
> worship.
> 
> The funniest thing about the above comparison is
> that it's actually 
> backward. Walker as a player is the one who should
> be compared to Duncan, 
> since the biggest virtue of both is the range of
> things they do very well, 
> vs being superb at one or two things. Not a knock on
> Duncan's skill level, 
> but it's the package that makes him the player he is
> vs any one skill. 
> While Walker has more offsetting faults, so the
> comparison might look 
> absurd to someone concentrating on those, but
> they're still a lot more 
> comparable in role than Pierce and Duncan. I'm not
> saying Walker's as good, 
> just that they are more comparable. Pierce is
> obviously a much much much 
> much better player than Walter but is closer to him,
> in that their best 
> value is in a more limited role focusing on the few
> things they do best. 
> Don't get me wrong, that's not intended as a put
> down of Pierce. Especially 
> in the light of anyone who knows my opinion of
> Walter as a player <g> 
> Pierce is obviously a very good scorer, an extremely
> underrated rebounder, 
> a good defender when he concentrates on it, but a
> mediocre to OK ball 
> handler for his position/game (that's actually an
> improvement - I see signs 
> of him working on it this past summer and give him
> credit for doing it), 
> and has also clearly seen his court vision,
> distribution skills, and the 
> sort of personal leadership that I think comes MUCH
> more naturally to 
> Walker (for good or evil) as things to work on. And
> again to his credit 
> clearly has worked on them. But that's part of the
> problem. Walker is at 
> his best the more things he does, because that range
> is his best asset and 
> it limits the degree his individual faults stand out
> or he concentrates on 
> the wrong thing. Pierce I think is trying to do too
> much, which emphasizes 
> some of the things he doesn't do as well vs
> concentrating on the things he 
> does better than almost anyone and increases his
> overall frustration level, 
> leading him to force things even more. It's growing
> pains, and I think it 
> will settle down as the rest of the team settles
> into their roles and he 
> feels more comfortable about not trying to be
> everything to everyone.
> 
> Kim 


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