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re: Jersey



I guess I see the problem as a bit bigger than "who's gonna take the crunch time shot". Has that ever been a problem with a scorer of Pierce's ability? EVERYONE knew Bird, Jordan, Nique, et al, were getting the ball in crunch time and as often as not they ended up shooting the ball -- and as often as not making it (I'll always remember that story of Bird telling X McDaniel, "I'm getting the ball right here and shooting it", X said "I know" and Bird still comes out of the timeout gets the ball right there and hits the game winner).

The problem, IMO, is that too often *earlier* in the game (i.e. early in the 4th quarter), the offense became "OK get the ball to Paul" or more acurately FORCE the ball into Paul. 2 problems with this:

1. When crunch time does come around, the Nets will just key in on Pierce -- which is exactly what they did.

2. When crunch time rolls around there is no possibility of any other player either being "hot" or even in rythym -- like LaFrentz, who should be our 2nd option.

Its like in football -- you run the ball to set up the pass. The Celtics need to get LaFrentz, Brown, Jones, Baker Battie involved and stay involved throughout the game to set up Pierce at the end of the game -- who SHOULD get the ball in crunch time. But when he gets the ball I want him to be able to look to score OR get it to someone else if nothing is there.

The question I have is whose doing is this? Is OBrien calling play after play to go to Pierce? Or is it as Douglas suggests, the players not having the confidence? I've always thought it was the former -- bad playcalling by Obrien since it seems too eerily similar to last year's offense.

A few other observations....

- late in the game I was troubled by how often LaFrentz passed up shots. I know he missed a few earlier (I only saw the 2nd half) but he's gotta keep taking them. IMO, for us to go far in the playoffs he's gotta score 16-20 ppg.

- i was glad Obrien left Banks in -- win or lose. I expected him to yank him for James when the game got late, but I think being in there can only help Banks' game and confidence. Banks was looking to push it which was nice. On the play at the end when Pierce got stripped from behind you could see Banks calling for the outlet in great position in the replay. And you gotta love him taking it to the hoop -- eventually as this team learns to play together that's going to create some wonderful dishes (a la Steve Nash) in the paint. I know its only one game but coupled with the Detroit game, I think Banks is coming along nicely.

- what was with Brown? did he realize its his last chance? did someone say something to him? were things just going his way? in the 3rd he simply went around Richard Jefferson on the baseline (a la Pierce) and Heinsohn was commenting he should do that several times a game -- can't agree more. I guess my current thinking though is that Kedrick is just freakish athletically but will need more time than we have to become a basketball player. You could sort of see that on the play where he got aroudn his man into the lane then jumped but, as Cousy noted, wasn't jumping to the rack but to get contact. I wish they could just have someone go over fundamentals with him all day and night. I guess we also have to remember that he's like 21 or 22. We'll see.

(the other) mark

Frederick Hurley wrote:

My thinking on this is that perhaps Pierce feels like he is the only one on the team who has a lot of "crunch time" experience, at least over the last few seasons. With Kenny Andersonlong gone, and now Antoine, it wouldn't be unexpected for Pierce to feel a little more pressure to make ALL the big shots. If you were a veteran, would you particularly trust that Kedrick, Banks, Battie, et al are better at making a big shot than you? Maybe Baker would be an obvious #2 option down the stretch, but he has a couple more months of this type of play before he begins to really regain some stature as a big-time player. Perhaps as he further establishes his role as the #2 guy, and proves he really is back, the Paul will feel less pressure to try and shoulder the entire crunch-time load.

On Nov 7, 2003, at 10:04 PM, Douglas342@xxxxxxx wrote:


A small problem which will, I hope, go away, is the feeling near the end
of the game that I can sort of describe like this: "Wow, it's real close, but
it's nervous time, so I guess we better get it to Paul, our main man who can
save us." And Paul has his mantra too: "It's crunch time, and the guys have
played well, but this is what they pay me for, so bring it on." He then tried
to dribble up the floor and gets stripped. End of game.
I knew that this season, or at least the first part of it, would be a
step backwards. I still like what I see overall. This was, despite the result,
a tremendously entertaining game .