Re: Drafting

["Dan Forant" <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Boston's management needs to be purged. Since the Bird era, *when was that*
management has made too many bad moves and then gotten rewarded for it.
Until the mold is broken more of the same to come. Looks like the new owners
are just crazy about the present team of boneheads. They're in effect
telling us to be happy with the lower end playoff spots. They actually think
they're responsible for us getting into the playoffs when in reality the EC
sucks.

DanF

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ryan nelson" <ryanmn@mindspring.com>
To: <Celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Drafting


> I have to disagree with statement that wallace has done an alright job of
picking players and signing free agents.  I give him credit for bremer and
strickland but he passed up quite a few decent players in taking jj and
kedrick (i won't even go into forte, but wallace is the one making
decisions, not red).
>
> First of all, kedrick can not play.  Walker was talking up vinny baker all
year just as he was kedrick.  that scares me.  seems like kedrick has no
confidence and no killer instinct.  Reminds me of a guy we had in training
camp in about 1989 named eric macarthur.  Tons of athleticism but just can't
play the game.  I won't fault wallace for joe johnson as it seemed like a
good pick at the time.  What i do fault him for is exercising the right to
use denver's pick to take kedrick instead of holding off until the next year
when the pick was #4 I think.  That was just plain stupid.  Everybody said
it at the time too.  Now that jerry krause is gone, wallace is officially
the worst gm in basketball.  Other than signing bremer (after giving omar
cook a guaranteed contract, nice job chris) he has made zero positive moves
and if you take into account the baker idiocy, he has killed this
franchise's chance of a world championshiip during the pierce-walker years
(unless vin retires, gi!
>  ves us cap room, and wallace is fired).  Does anybody think the celtics
can ever win it with wallace making deals?
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
> From: GuyClinch@AOL.com
> Sent: 04/30/03 10:56 PM
> To: Celtics@igtc.com
> Subject: Drafting
>
> >
> > > Sure, the players would have a better idea what the potential draft
picks
>
> > can do than Wallace, can't hurt to consult them. It also wouldn't hurt
> to
> > compile a psychological profile on potential draftees so that we don't
> pick
> >
> > someone as timid as Kedrick and JJ, or a pain in the ass troublemaker
> like
> > Forte. At least talk to them at length, get to know them beyond their
> > vertical and wingspan numbers.
> >
>
>
>
>
> Gee..you believe everything you read..dont ya.
> Neither Kedrick or JJ are "timid", IMHO. You should try watching some Suns
>
> games.
> J.J. is a perfectly normal player. He is perfectly willing to hoist up
> shots.
> This 'timid" stuff is a bit of poetic license on the part of the local
> media.
>
>
> Also who is to say that Wallace didn't get the coaches or players input
> before these choices? I wouldn't be surprised if they looked at his ACT
> scores or talked with his teachers or something like that as far as
> understanding his "psyche" too.
>
> That being said since the GM has endless time to seek out talent he is
> going
> to do a better job then players and coaches who are involved with winning
> games. Thats why they don't often have coach/GM in basketball. It's too
> much
> work to find talents and coach your team.
>
> Besides since both Walker and Pierce have publically plugged to for
> Kedrick
> to get more time. So it seems that he does okay with them..<g> It's OB who
>
> doesn't want to play the guy...
>
> Wallace has proven to be a horrible GM because of his Baker trade...but as
>
> far as picking players and signing free agents he has done alright. Strick
>
> can play..and he signed him last year. J.R. Bremer is pretty damn good for
> an
> undrafted guy. And Brown and JJ will be ten year NBA players if not for
> the
> Celtics.
>
> I wouldn't be the least bit surpised if Wallace got work with another team
>
> after the Celtics. Like I said before drafting is a gamble..sure Jerry
> West
> picked Kobe Bryant but he has screwed up alot as well. Red picked Forte.
> Its
> not senility...it was just a bad bet.
>
> If your not drafting in the top three you might get someone good like
> Pierce
> or Walker..but more often then not you will just get a serviceable NBA
> player. If you really screw up you might get a true bust like the
> O'Bannons.
>
>
> Pete