Re: Trade idea?

["Dan Forant" <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

This is all hypothetical. In fact Walker doesn't do all he can to help the
team. His averages say so. When will Vinny find time for his AA meetings??
If he is truly an alkey, I have no faith in his return to NBA form. Society
maybe.

DanF

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DJB" <dajubo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: Trade idea?


> In my opinion, moves like these will send the Cs straight to the lottery.
My observation of 'Toine is that he'll do anything he can to help the team
win. He plays the way the coach directs him to. He has good chemistry with
Pierce and realizes that Pierce is the man on this team. Why trade him for
inferior talent? And as far as Baker is concerned, I believe he'll be a big
plus for the Cs. Having him rehabbed and refocused will be the Celtics'
equivalent to signing a premium free agent.
>
> -David
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Mark Piotrowski <markp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 07/31/03 10:16 AM
> To: Celtics@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Trade idea?
>
> >
> > A half-formed idea from a coffee-adled early morning mind:
>
> Now that Clips matched the Jazz's offer on Maggette (and having
> missed out on Brand, both Millers, etc.) there is some concern that
> they may have a hard time meeting the minimum team salary.
>
> What might we be able to extract from them say for Walker + Baker +
> Brown (the salaries don't have to match b/c Jazz are below the cap).
> If you're Ainge don't you at least offer Walker & Baker for:
>
>
> Harpring (2 years left; starting SF)
> Ostertag (FA at big money next summer)
> Pavlovic (rumored to have been a player Ainge liked)
> #1 pick (our chance at a Thorpe-Milicic pick?)
>
> Heck if they agreed to make the #1 pick next year only top 3
> protected then I'd swap, say, Delk or Ewill for Baker -- since I
> think the Jazz are going to be really bad next year even if they
> added Delk/Walker/Brown
>
> Ostertag's exp. salary, along with Ewill, the vanquished Baker &
> Walker contracts will allow us a lot of flexibility next summer to
> sign FA's or, as we've seen this summer, broker trades -- like SA did
> getting Turkoglo + Mercer for Ferry (who may still return as a cut
> player from Ind)
>
> Given that cap flexibilty to add talent next summer, I'd be willing
> to take a future #1 and bank it -- I think the Jazz are going to be
> entering a 10-year down period.  I'd be willing to hold onto it for
> 4-5 years in fact until its not lottery protected at all (like the
> Milicic pick).
>
> I'm not saying I'd do this trade right now -- I'd have to think more
> about it and who knows what Utah thinks, but I think Walker and Ewill
> present some interesting possiblities in terms of upgrading talent on
> the C's.
>
> DISCLAIMER:  Like I've said before I'm not a
> trade-Walker-at-all-costs guy but believed (until Ainge took over)
> that he might be our best bet at upgrading the talent level.  With DA
> at the helm I'm more willing to be patient b/c I think that unlike
> the BDT he'll be more creative and less hysterical about finding
> talent in different places.  I guess i suggest trades b/c I like
> thinking about and hearing how others think about the future of our
> team -- how different pieces might fit.  Its easy to say trade Walker
> for Duncan, but that won't ever happen.
>
> (the other) Mark