Re: a question no one in Colorado seems to be asking

[Snoopy the Celtics Beagle <snoopy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry, "don't laugh" was being used as an expression.  I didn't mean to say 
you weren't being (or taking this) seriously.  Yes, it's not always 
reasonable (or possible) to have 2 people at every job.  That doesn't mean 
that those who DO work alone can't take reasonable and sensible 
precautions.  Sometimes, I don't think a 19-year-old fully realizes WHY 
those precautions are necessary.

Sort of like something I saw on TV a while back, a news story on kids and 
guns.  They took a bunch of kids whose parents had continuously told them 
not to even be in the same room with a gun, much less touch it.  In a room 
with closed circuit tv, they left a special unworkable gun where the kids 
could find it.  In nearly every case, they not only picked up the gun, but 
pointed it at fellow children and pulled the trigger.  Sometimes, 
people--be they 5, 19, or 86--don't listen.

It's not that I'm putting blame anywhere--a court will do that.  My thought 
is to realize that there are levels of responsibility some people aren't 
ready to handle, even if they're mature/old enough to hold a 
job.  Apparently, assuming Kobe's assertion is true, she showed an 
appalling lack of good judgement--as did Kobe himself.  Neither person 
handled things well.

Why was she in the room in the first place?  If it was as part of her job, 
then while I think it's a bad work procedure, I can understand it.  If it 
was after her shift was over, then she was even more wrong.  And if, at 
some point, even if she went in willingly, she said, "no"; then Kobe needed 
to stop.  The problem, obviously, is we just don't know.


At 04:57 PM 7/19/03 -0400, Shawn Niles wrote:

>I wasn't laughing. I was completely serious. There are numerous jobs out 
>there that require people to work alone. It's not reasonable to think that 
>you have 2 people working every single job.
>
>As for the girl in this case, responsible or not, she went into Kobe's 
>room. She probably went in there with the idea that she would have sex 
>with him. As I said earlier, the question is what happened once she was in 
>the room. Only Kobe and the girl know for sure.
>
>
>>From: Snoopy the Celtics Beagle <snoopy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: celtics@xxxxxxxx, Celticsstuffgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: a question no one in Colorado seems to be asking
>>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 16:46:55 -0400
>>
>>At 04:35 PM 7/19/03 -0400, Shawn Niles wrote:
>>
>> >Thats going overboard Snoop. There are a lot of jobs in this country where
>> >people are required to work alone. There's some level of maturity that is
>> >expected of people that are old enough to work. However, this girl knew
>> >probably knew what she was doing by going into the room. The question is
>> >whether or not she changed her mind about it once she got in there, and
>> >whether or not Kobe allowed her to.
>> >
>> >Chaperones for pizza delivery people too? They work alone too, after all.
>>
>>Don't laugh.  There were changes to pizza delivery after a few drivers were
>>assaulted and killed.
>>
>>After I wrote my original posts, I heard on the news that the woman
>>allegedly went to Kobe's room after her shift was over--which conflicts
>>with reports that she was going to his room in an official capacity.  I
>>know there's a certain maturity level required.  I just don't think that
>>the *average* 19-year-old has that maturity.  For all I know, she's the
>>most responsible kid in Colorado.
>>
>>I don't, however, think that it's often a good idea for people to work
>>alone--say in convenience stores, hotels, and any place where you have
>>face-to-face customer contact.  I've done customer contact work, and I know
>>for a personal fact there's some seemingly nice people out there who are
>>really around the bend.
>
>Snoopy the Celtics Beagle
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