RE: trades

["Berry, Mark S" <berrym@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Absolutely, but he had another one of those season-ending preseason injuries that only seem to happen to the Celtics. Last year it was Kedrick (of course, Kedrick has proven that his problems have nothing to do with injuries). This year, it's Jones. The guy missed the preseason and struggled when he came back. Is that supposed to be a surprise? So the solution is to bury him behind Walter? I guess he hasn't had enough time to practice his "blitz" technique.

Anyway... yes, Jumaine Jones could be that guy. But Obie has buried him. He hasn't let him play his way back into shape or get his timing back. It's typical Obie. It's also another reason why an EWill trade wouldn't break my heart, especially if Kedrick were included - Obie would be forced to play Jones.

Mark

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Sean Giovanello [mailto:sgiovanello@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent:	Friday, December 05, 2003 11:18 AM
To:	Berry, Mark  S
Cc:	celtics@xxxxxxxx
Subject:	Re: trades

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BUT... the small forward spot is a problem in THIS offense. Would I love to see Obie gone and a true passing game implemented? Absolutely. But, dealing with the current reality, a small forward who could knock down shots would be a huge help. 
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Isnt this why we got Jumaine Jones?  

His stats from last year:

Year 	Team 	G 	FG 	FGP 	FT 	FTP 	3PT 	3PTP 	RPG 	APG 	SPG 	TPG 	BPG 	PPG

2002 	CLE 	80 	308 	43.4 	57 	68.7 	111 	35.4 	5.06 	1.40 	0.84 
1.34 	0.28 	9.80

I was expecting to see his points up around 14 and his rebounds up to 6.5 or 7 a game this year with Walker gone and that he would be on a team where he should be the starting SF.  As for OB Ball, he hit 111 3s last year at a 35 percent clip.  




Berry, Mark S wrote:

>Josh, I basically agree with you (although no way Baker should have ever seen the light of day last year, let alone the ball). 
>
>Pierce and Baker should get this team 40 points a night, and that almost matches the Pierce/Walker combo. And they'll do it MUCH more efficiently. So you should have more shots for other guys and an improved offense.
>
>So what's the problem? Well, they forget about Baker too much. The point guards look for their shots WAY too much, wasting possessions when the ball should go to Baker/Pierce or even Lafrentz, the third most talented offensive player on the team. So you're right... the team could use a legit distributing point guard. But I don't think that's coming. I think Ainge wants Banks to develop, and the only way another point guard comes in is if Mike James goes out. Otherwise, you have a point guard rotation of New Guy and Mike James, with Banks benched. That's just Obie.
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>I also believe Perkins should be playing. He's the team's biggest player and best rebounder. He's also, I'd submit, the best low-post big man other than Baker. Of course there will be growing pains and foul trouble. But give the kid a shot. Hunter, I'm not as sure of, but I'd like to see if he can rebound. If they're going to be non-factors on the offensive end anyway, then why not a guy who works hard and rebounds?
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>BUT... the small forward spot is a problem in THIS offense. Would I love to see Obie gone and a true passing game implemented? Absolutely. But, dealing with the current reality, a small forward who could knock down shots would be a huge help. 
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>Anyway, I'm not sure anything will change as long as Obie is here. Remember, he spent the entire preseason "coaching" the running game. We see how well that worked.
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>Mark
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>Josh wrote:
>
>The thing is, the Celtics actually have more on-court
>talent right now than they have had in a long time.  It's
>downright criminal, especially given the current rash of
>injuries, for Obie not to be playing Hunter and Perkins
>AT ALL.  We don't need to import a scorer who plays
>Pierce's position as much as we need a legit point guard
>and a scorer who can complement pierce at the end
>of games.  I wish we could somehow get hold of Michael
>Finley.
>
>As for the Celtics' need for  a second all-star...How about Vin Baker?  If not
>actually an all-star, he plays one on TV, and is close to a sure thing down
>low with the ball.  I'm glad Obie is
>finally coming around to the truth we all knew even when Baker
>was a bloated drunk.  The guy can't help us if he doesn't get
>the ball!