Re: Making Tommy Heinsohn happy

["adam litchy" <adamlitchy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dont' think Tony (while I like him) has ever even averaged 7 boards a game 
during the regular season.  Vin should do that easy, and has done better 
than that in the past (all though recently his numbers have gone down a 
bit.)  In the first pre-season game they both had 7 boards in about the same 
minutes.  Not like Battie is Ben Wallace, or something.


> From: "Lance Jacobson" <lancejacob@attbi.com>
> To: <Eggcentric@AOL.com>, <snoopy1@pig.net>, <celtics@igtc.com>
> Subject: Re: Making Tommy Heinsohn happy
> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:13:45 -0400
>
> I liked where you were going with this, Eggy, as far as the running game 
> and
> the separation of Baker from the Captains.  I DO think it's by design, 
> where
> Baker gets to run the floor, set up down low and feed the rim from the hub
> and work with cutters.  It IS two different teams, playing two different
> games.  I know I like the Baker game better, and even though it was 
> sloppier
> (if you subtract all of PP's individual gaffes), it's still very early.  As
> to the comparison between Vin and Battie, it's pretty much a stretch.
> Battie does his share of rebounding, Vin hasn't.  Vin passes, handles the
> ball and shoots layups. Battie finishes with short jumpers from the
> baseline, out of the line of fire.  Very different games from two guys in
> the same position.  Vin COULD learn how to rebound better from Battie, who
> learned footwork from Vitaly last year.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Eggcentric@AOL.com>
> To: <snoopy1@pig.net>; <celtics@igtc.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Making Tommy Heinsohn happy
>
>
> > << I'm nervous that what O'Brien is saying seems to be two completely
> > different things.  In one paragraph, he's talking about fast breaks and
> > easy layups.  The next, about using the three.  Same team, same game. >>
> > -Snoopy
> >
> > Struck me the same way. How can you have a running game without
> > rebounding? Also, Obie seems to be using the starters in one way and
> > VIN BAKER AND THE SECOND STRINGERS (sounds like a rock group) in
> > another way.  Why not play Baker with the first unit in these exhibition
> > games if that is where he will be playing come the season?  Battie is
> > already familiar with the starters.
> >
> > Speaking of Battie, I like him.  I think our fans underestimate his
> > contributions to last season's success.  Maybe the new center coach can
> > teach him how to box out.  He is a better defensive player than Baker 
> and
> > who knows, if Obie called more plays his way he might well be Baker's
> > equal in scoring stats. As is, both their latest (01-02) stats and even
> > their career stats surprisingly aren't that far apart. Baker just shoots
> > more.
> >
> >
> > 01-02
> > AVERAGES    BAKER   BATTIE
> >
> > G           55      74
> > MPG     31.1    24.6
> > FG%     .485    .541
> > 3P%     .125    .000
> > FT%     .633    .677
> > OFF     3.10    2.50
> > DEF     3.30    4.00
> > RPG     6.40    6.50
> > APG     1.3     .5
> > BPG     .65     .91
> > TO          2.31    .69
> > PPG     14.1    6.9
> >
> >
> > CAREER
> > AVERAGES    BAKER   BATTIE
> >
> > G           650 311
> > MPG     35.7    21.9
> > FG%     .486    .495
> > 3P%     .220    .133
> > FT%     .633    .676
> > OFF     3.10    2.10
> > DEF     5.10    3.60
> > RPG     8.20    5.70
> > APG     2.2     .7
> > BPG     1.12    1.08
> > TO          2.45    .96
> > PPG     16.9    7.0



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