RE: Ode to Kenny

["Wright, Cecil" <Cecil.Wright@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I made a comment about Kenny not distributing the basketball during numbers
opportunities.  Maybe you didn't see it.  I did.  Others did.  I am not
deriding him, just stating what I saw.  Kenny's responsibility, as a point
guard, is one of distribution as with any decent PG.  He didn't do it at
times for reasons known only to him.  To criticize Paul, the scorer, for not
passing the ball as well as a PG should have is pointless.

Cecil

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Lee [mailto:rlee_at_channing@yahoo.com]
Sent: July 24, 2002 3:06 PM
To: Shawn Niles; celtics@igtc.com
Subject: Re: Ode to Kenny


 No no no, Paul is not that out of control but his lack of ballhandling and
passing gets him into trouble.  I think the original point was lost in all
of this.  I was not criticizing the Paul's offensive fouls (which some were
valid charges) but the fact that Cecil loves to deride Kenny for all  the
wrong reasons.  The fact of the matter is that one cannot single out Kenny
alone for not passing.  Pierce is much more blatant than Kenny when it comes
to missing an open man for a pass.  He drives into multiple defenders and
puts himself into position to be called for these bogus charges.  I don't
argue that the league rigged all the refs to have Jersey win but had Paul
made the extra pass, alot of those charges would not have been called in
those crucial moments.   
  And yes, what you described about the defender slipping under the man in
the air is totally right.  It's not a charge but a blocking foul.  Kidd did
do that several times and got away with it but there were a few fast breaks
where Pierce had someone on the wing with him and instead of passing he'd
just take out the defender.  Paul needs to learn how to utilize his
teammates more.  If Toine can finally learn team ball, Pierce should be able
make the change as well.
R
I may be in the minority but I wish Kenny the best of luck in Seattle or
whatever team he ends up on.
  Shawn Niles <shizzjr@hotmail.com> wrote: I may agree with you partially,
but your original post made it sound as 
though Paul was continually out of control and I don't feel as though that 
was the case. I think a big part of it was NBA and NBC wanting the 2 big 
markets in the finals. Rodney had a few charges called on him that were 
bogus too.

I think the rule does need to be revisited. A post here a number of months 
ago outlined the reason for that little circle being added under the basket.

It was to stop guys from jumping in as an offensive player was already in 
the air. But it still happens. If a player is in the air and a defender 
jumps in front of him and plants his feet, it is not a charge.


>From: Ryan Lee 
>To: Shawn Niles , Celtics@igtc.com
>Subject: Re: Ode to Kenny
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:29:07 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>All of the charges? Come on Shawn the refs were bad but they weren't that 
>bad. It's true half of those charges were bull (with Kidd exerting his 
>star power over the refs), but half the time Paul had no where to go with 
>the ball except through the guy in front of him. Also since the refs were 
>calling the charge alot that series, Paul should have adapted to that and 
>passed the ball out more. As for revisiting the rule, a charge is a charge 
>is a charge. This isn't like the illegal defense rule which was vague and 
>hardly enforced.
> Shawn Niles wrote: I remember all those charges on 
>Pierce being bogus and sparking many people
>to say the league needs to revisit the rule, or just start enforcing it.
>Jason Kidd came over and stepped in front of Paul only after Paul had 
>picked
>up his dribble or had gone airborn. That is not a charge.
>
>
> >From: Ryan Lee
> >To: Celtics@igtc.com
> >Subject: Ode to Kenny
> >Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:24:08 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Cecil,
> >
> >"Sorry folks, but if anyone saved copies of the games against NJ, you
> >will
> >have noticed that, though he played well at times, on other occasions
> >he
> >deliberately chose not to distribute the ball on 3 on 2 and 2 on 1
> >situations. "
> >
> >As bad as you hate Kenny, let's not single him out for not passing in the
> >playoffs. A certain Paul Pierce developed tunnel vision in the playoffs
> >which caused him to take umpteen forced shots and get called for umpteen
> >offensive fouls on the fast break. You do remember the image of Jason 
>Kidd
> >drawing the charge on Paul repeatedly do you? Kenny in his final season
> >was the ultimate team player who finally got his head screwed on right. 
>It
> >was Kenny who tried to carry the C's in the final playoff game with one 
>of
> >his finest games of his career (18 pts, 7 assists) when Walker and Pierce
> >were shut down. Think what you may Cecil but Kenny barring his high
> >salary was a great fit for the Celtics at point guard. He doesn't have to
> >have the ball in his hands all the time, he can hit the open shot, and he
> >can create shots for other players off the dribble. Unless Antoine 
>becomes
> >the point forward that Obie thinks he can be, the Celts will sorely miss
> >Kenny's passing and ballha!
> >ndling as evidenced by the scoring droughts when Strickland and Delk were
> >running the point.
> >
> >
> >" I think another transaction will take place there
> >or
> >Nate McMillan will have more counseling to do with KA." \
> >
> >What does Kenny need counseling for? Besides him referring to himself in
> >the third person all the time, he's not a headcase like Vin Baker. I
> >believe Kenny will play out his contract and become a very serviceable
> >backup guard for years to come.
> >
> >R
> >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better
>
>
>
>
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