Fw: [Celtics' Stuff Obie isn't my friend

["Tom Titus" <ttitus@mindspring.com>]

It is called one or two on five. Everyone else hang out until ?? & then
defend. Not much room for all to participate; thus, it much easier to
defend, with 5 guarding two. Help on this went to the Suns by the way of bad
planning. Superstars make everyone else better. Do PP & AW?  TT

Date: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Celtics' Stuff Obie isn't my friend


>Here is another loss on a game we should have won. Some people will
>attribute
>it to our lack of rebounding or defense. Yes, these are things we should
>have
>done better. Others will say it was infamiliarity with the inclusion of
>Rogers and Delk. They definitely looked lost out there (kind of like JJ did
><
>g>). But the common theme I have noticed is that Pierce and Walker are not
>getting the ball in good positions to score. When we win, it is usually
>behind Pierce and occasionally behind Walker. Our studs will be taking the
>ball to the hoop or scoring from outside. It just isn't happening in our
>losses. I have noticed a disturbing trend of a difficulty of Kenny getting
>the entry pass into Pierce. He is forcing Pierce to come out all the way to
>the 3 point line. Plus, Kenny is going back to his old habit of pounding
the
>ball into the gorund trying to score when he needs to get the ball to the
>     guys who actually can score
>            DJessen
>            **************
>   I didn't see it that way DJ. While I agree 100% that Vitaly is playing
>very poorly and I would have used Kedrick to slow down Mobley, it seemed to
>me that it was Anderson's foul trouble and lack of effort, all around, that
>cost us this game.
>   Walker and Pierce both took 20 shots and hit close to 50%. I saw nothing
>wrong with their offense.
>   I also saw an offense lose it's steam, after Kenny left with his second
>foul and go completely awry, when he left with his third.
>   No rebounds, mindless passes, lack of defensive intensity, after the
>first period and poor coaching, cost us this one, not Kenny, unless you
mean
>his absence due to fouls. To me it pointed out, very graphicaly, the need
>for the back up point guard, with young legs (do we all only see what we
are
>looking to see?).
>   Can you imagine a different outcome, if we had that point guard, who
came
>in, instead of Strickland, when Kenny left with the 18 point lead? Add a
few
>other subs, who want to run and imho, we could have put the game away,
>before Houston woke up.
>
>  JB
>
>
>
>                  Unchain My Heart !
>
>on 2/23/02 11:21 PM, Celtic4Hire@aol.com at Celtic4Hire@aol.com wrote:
>
>Here is another loss on a game we should have won. Some people will
>attribute
>it to our lack of rebounding or defense. Yes, these are things we should
>have
>done better. Others will say it was infamiliarity with the inclusion of
>Rogers and Delk. They definitely looked lost out there (kind of like JJ did
><
>g>). But the common theme I have noticed is that Pierce and Walker are not
>getting the ball in good positions to score. When we win, it is usually
>behind Pierce and occasionally behind Walker. Our studs will be taking the
>ball to the hoop or scoring from outside. It just isn't happening in our
>losses. I have noticed a disturbing trend of a difficulty of Kenny getting
>the entry pass into Pierce. He is forcing Pierce to come out all the way to
>the 3 point line. Plus, Kenny is going back to his old habit of pounding
the
>ball into the gorund trying to score when he needs to get the ball to the
>guys who actually can score. Kenny, you can't beat anybody anymore. In this
>gimmick offense, what works is when Pierce or Walker either shoot over the
>top or take it to the rim and then kick the ball out to the open shooters
>for
>3s. Part of the problem is Obies insane reliance of Erik Williams, who the
>defense gambles off of. If we are going to go with this gimmick offense, we
>need to stay in it and it can't be with that bricklayer Erik Williams on
the
>court. Kenny needs a refresher on what is role is: to get the ball to
Walker
>and Pierce and be ready to make a 20 foot jumper on a kickout. That is what
>he was doing earlier in the season, not trying to be the guy that makes the
>play. I think this stuff is Obie's job.
>
>Other notes:
>VP has be totally stinking up the joint this past month if anyone has
>noticed. I really liked the way Blount looked in the Laker game. Obie
>actually noticed it too and suprisingly let him play half of the 3 and all
>of
>the 4th quarter. Now, Obie hasagain totally forgot about him again. I'm not
>a
>great Blount fan but I think a fire hydrant could play better than VP right
>now.
>
>Rodney Rogers is huge.
>
>Kedrick was a DNP just like I predicted. You don't think he might have been
>able to play some defense on Mobley? I think Obie's dream team includes a
>smallish guy at the shooting guard with him putting Delk as the starting 2
>and the consistant playing of Strickland there also. I am starting to
wonder
>if the Celtics (Walker and Pierce) aren't just so talented that they are
>getting by inspite of poor coaching decisions by Obie. I think Pitino's
>defensive pressing gimmick held them back and now I wonder about some of
>Obie's decisions. It is going to be funny on how we trade Kedrick away this
>summer and say that we were able to trade him and still not affect the
>playing rotation.....
>
>DJessen33