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RE: Peter May Says On WEEI:



While I don't want to start a war of words, pray tell me what is ludicrous about adding an all-star calibre centre? You say we are a defensively strong unit - yet we lose 97-77 to this same Spurs team with Duncan, a semi-washed up .... etc.! 

We are teetering in the 0.500 range with O'Brien because the East is weak. Though Walker and Pierce may be all-star calibre (I'm not saying they are all-stars), they have not reached a point in their careers where they can take us to a Championship (may revise my opinion in the next two years). They definitely do need solid support from the role players and I don't see Brown or Stith or anybody else on the team doing a consistent job on defence. At some point of time, the role players have to do their job and they have to do it well. (Incidentally, do you consider Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant when Chicago was going for its first three titles, role players?). 

venkat

-----Original Message-----
From: OzerskyJA [mailto:OzerskyJA@cmog.org]
Sent: 23 March 2001 10:58
To: 'Sampath, Venkatesh'; Celtics@igtc.com
Subject: RE: Peter May Says On WEEI: 


To me, that is an unrealistic way of thinking.  You have a cohesive,
defensively strong unit, with two all-star caliber players -- one of whom
is a dominating scorer well on his way to superstar status.  And you think
that they'll only be mediocre unless they add an MVP-caliber center?  
That's ludicrous.  Philadelphia is a title contender with one great player
and eleven role players.  Chicago won two titles that way.  San Antonio
is dominating the league with Tim Duncan, a semi-washed up David Robinson,
one good young guard, and a bunch of spot up shooters. 
The days when you needed to assemble a hall of fame starting five
are long gone.  The Celtics get a Jason Terry type player, Mark Blount
develops at all, and you have yourself a sold playoff team.  After that,
it's a question of how the brackets fall:  just ask the Knicks, Sixers, 
Jazz, Sonics, or Magic.

Josh Ozersky	
Marketing Communications Specialist 
Corning Museum of Glass

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Sampath, Venkatesh [SMTP:Venkatesh.Sampath@microcell.ca]
> Sent:	Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:34 PM
> To:	Celtics@igtc.com
> Subject:	RE: Peter May Says On WEEI: 
> 
> I would tend to agree with Jim. With the present make-up, we can hope to
> be a "decent" team, perhaps able to make it to the play-offs now and then.
> Walker and Pierce, since Pitino's departure, are bringing fairly strong
> scoring on a seemingly regular basis (without getting into the field goal
> percentage), but the support is very weak. 
> I mean we have reached a stage where we point to Randy Brown and his
> "experience on a Championship team." Let's face it - he was a reserve who
> got lucky. We have 16 banners hanging from the ceiling and we can't find
> one player from one of those Championship teams to help us regain our
> glory days? I used to think that we had reached our nadir with Carr as our
> coach - at least he managed to work the deal that brought us Walker.
> Pitino kept complaining about how he was unlucky to miss out on Duncan -
> why the hell didn't he thank his stars on being able to land Pierce at
> #10? (Not that I'm trying to compare the two players). 
> In fact, our hope at a Championship will begin if we manage to tear Duncan
> away from the Spurs - much like West did with O'Neal and the Magic - and
> still keep Walker and Pierce. 
> 
> venkat 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OzerskyJA [mailto:OzerskyJA@cmog.org]
> Sent: 22 March 2001 16:10
> To: 'Jim McMaster'; Celtics@igtc.com
> Subject: RE: Peter May Says On WEEI: 
> 
> 
> See,  my take on it is that the Celtics were a bad team, but that they
> made
> a big jump when Pitino left, and are now a solid playoff team
> in the east and a borderline playoff team in the west.  Obie has steered
> the Celtics to a .500 record through horrendous road swings, multiple
> games
> against title contenders, etc.  If he had been coaching all year, I'm
> convinced we would be several games over .500, at least at the even-up
> point.  Just my feeling.
> 
> Josh Ozersky	
> Marketing Communications Specialist 
> Corning Museum of Glass
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Jim McMaster [SMTP:mcmaster@falcon.stortek.com]
> > Sent:	Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:03 PM
> > To:	Celtics@igtc.com
> > Subject:	Re: Peter May Says On WEEI: 
> > 
> > Losses happen...look at the Bulls versus the Celtics.  If the Nuggets or
> 
> > Sonics  were in the East, their records would qualify them for the
> > playoffs, 
> > bumping both Boston and Indiana. Phoenix actually would be fifth in the
> > East. 
> >  These records were earned against better competition.
> > 
> > Bottom line:  a good team would not be nine games under .500 at this
> point
> > in 
> > the season.  The Celtics are a probably not far from being a decent
> team,
> > but 
> > they are light-years away from Championship contention.
> > -- 
> > Jim McMaster
> > mailto:mcmaster@falcon.stortek.com
> > Go Celtics!
> > 
> > 
> > In message <20010322195442.10139.qmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com>,
> Shailendra
> > 
> > Mish
> > ra said:
> > > 
> > > How would you then explain there multiple losses to a bad east coast
> > team. - 
> > > Mishra 
> > > 
> > >   Jim McMaster <mcmaster@falcon.stortek.com> wrote: 
> > > In message <20010321212807.26299.qmail@web1004.mail.yahoo.com>,
> > Shailendra 
> > > Mish
> > > ra said:
> > > 
> > > > My only comment is, if the C's are a bad team, then how would you
> > classify 
> > > t
> > > > eams like Suns, Nuggets, Pacers, Sonics. Worse ??? - Mishra
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > No, I would classify the Suns, Nuggets and Pacers as unlucky to be in
> > the 
> > > West. The Pacers seem to be a better team with a bad coach.
> > > -- 
> > > Jim McMaster
> >