Re: Tinsley

["John Lyell" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>]

Tinsley was very disappointing in the tournaments this year.Unless he
impresses in some camps I think his stock may drop. I hope based on good
tournament showing we see Williams and Forte change their minds and leave,
although we probably won't have a chance for Williams.  Heywood does remind
me of Wallace.


 I like what I have seen from Gadzuric he is real aggressive, lets see what
he does against Duke.

What about Troy Bell from BC and Marvin O'conner of St Joes.  ?

Bell is guys is as good as any guard I have seen all year.  Extremely quick,
an Iverson like crossover, and a good outside shooter.

Stanford had no answer for O'Conner as he went 15-20. I thought I  heard he
scored 18 points in a minute earlier this year in a game!


We need another threat like Bell, Forte, Juan Dixon, or Gilbert Arenas and a
big man inside like Gadzuric or Heywood.

John



----- Original Message -----
From: "OzerskyJA" <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>
To: <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 10:54 AM
Subject: RE: Tinsley


> Both these guys sound great.  If Tinsley is all that, it's worth moving up
> to
> get him.  It sounds like he'll be the first point taken if Jason Williams
> does
> indeed stay at Duke.  If Haywood stays in, this might be the best crop of
> centers ever.  For some reason I was under the impression that Brendan
> Haywood was a plodding white guy along the lines of Dan Gadzuric or Todd
> McCulloch.
>
> Josh Ozersky
> Marketing Communications Specialist
> Corning Museum of Glass
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hironaka [SMTP:j.hironaka@unesco.org]
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:36 PM
> > To: Gene Kirkpatrick; celtics@igtc.com
> > Subject: Re: Tinsley
> >
> > Gene Kirkpatrick wrote:
> >
> > > I saw Tinsley's second half last night.  He was good, especially when
> > > he drove full-court to lay almost-in the winning basket.  He just
> > > missed it.  But his passing and outside shooting and getting into the
> > > lane and unselfishness are good enough.  His composure is fine.  I
> > > have some doubts, but I think he had a great first half of a senior
> > > year and faded mainly because his teammates couldn't step up with him
> > > (they needed production from two excellent freshmen and didn't get it
> > > down the stretch).  I think he will be able to step it up with better
> > > competition.  I'd still go with him at 10.  He has the body, the cool,
> > > and real talent.  Then add Haywood or the best player/swingman next.
> > >
> > > Enjoying the tournament; got most of them right yesterday.  Missed on
> > > Ia. State, Ga., Ind., and Arkansas.  Cheers,  Gene
> >
> > I was checking out Tinsley's stats since I hear so much about him on
this
> > list but know pitifully little about him.  A Brooklyn native who
competed
> > against the likes of Stephon Marbury and Ed Cota, he never played high
> > school ball. Tinsley was a Rucker League star with the nickname "the
> > abuser". According to his AAU coach, he attended only a month-and-a-half
> > of classes over an 8 semester span (and that wasn't because he was busy
> > working on his Westinghouse science project). On the court, in his last
> > Juco season at Mount San Jacinto, he did his best Oscar Robertson
> > imitation by averaging 22 points, nine assists, nine rebounds and five
> > steals per game. That's pretty much a triple-double average for a
> > powerhouse Juco program.
> >
> > One odd thing about this season, though, was that he had six games this
> > season with 7 or fewer points and six more with 3 or fewer assists. I
> > can't explain the cause of that inconsistency because I don't follow
that
> > team. He's had some monster games though.
> >
> > Below is what "Hoops R Us" Web site has to say about him:
> >
> > Has the ballhandling and athleticism to do damage as a scorer, though he
> > is an undependable shooter on the perimeter Marvelous handle, uses
> > crossover and spin dribble as well as ball fakes to get a step on his
> > defender
> > - Truly incredible as a finisher, smooth when he needs to be smooth,
> > explosive when he needs to be explosive
> > - Great speed, collected in the open court -Doesn't have a full enough
> > shooting rotation and instead almost flicks the ball to the basket with
a
> > quick release
> > - This makes for poor accuracy from anywhere on the floor, especially
from
> > long-range or off the dribble
> > - Great in his recognitions, exceptional as a downcourt and crosscourt
> > passer
> > - Makes extraordinarily quick feeds off his reads, getting teammates the
> > ball before the play is finished developing
> > - Often tries to do too much looking for assists and overaggressiveness
> > leads to turnovers -Very alert on defense, reading the passing lanes for
> > steals and initiating the break
> >
> > -------------
> > Here also is the ESPN scouting report of Brendan Haywood, the other guy
> > Gene mentioned in his post. I would think a guy his size would almost
> > surely go in the top ten. If he develops at the rate of Tar Heal alum
> > Rasheed Wallace, that would be something.
> >
> > Brendan Haywood
> > Center | #0 | Senior | Roster
> > Height: 7-0
> > Weight: 264 lbs.
> > Hometown: Greensboro, NC
> > Considered a project when he arrived in Chapel Hill, is slowly learning
> > how to harness his natural physical abilities ... As a specimen and as
an
> > athlete, reminds of a larger version of a young Chris Webber ...
Probably
> > gets high-percentage shots around the basket better than anyone in the
> > country ... Dynamic as a finisher, has great size and mobility ...
> > Tremendous pair of hands ... Hangs in the air and adjusts his shot
> > accordingly to kiss it off the glass ... Superb touch ... Excellent
> > quickness in his body rotation on spins ... Holds off his man on the
front
> > for easy layups off lobs ... Uses his pivot foot very well, especially
on
> > the up and under ... Remarkable ability to move such a big body so well
> > ... Needs to give his teammates a wider target in the post, as he will
> > establish a narrow base in his setup .. Rebounding skills are good, but
> > considering his natural ability, one would think he would be more
> > productive than he is ... The upside to his game is scary, a lot of NBA
> > scouts have their eyes fixed on his development ... Highly- recruited
out
> > of high school, though it should be said he wasn't as dominate as one
> > would think he would be at the prep level.
> >
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