[meta] Re: It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)

[bird <birdw@aloha.net>]

(Thought I'd briefly interrupt the lovefest with a few comments.)

>From: "Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>
>
>There is no debate taking place here.

This is absolutely correct.  Forant keeps talking about "debate" and 
"accountability" while showing in his posts that he has no idea what 
the words mean.  A non sequitur does not a cogent argument make. 
Merely saying the team sucks does not make it so.  Someone who bandys 
the word "debate" around so much ought to know the word "evidence" 
and how to use some.

Then again, Forant's position is essentially untenable.  It is 
impossible for the season to be crapped out before any regular season 
games are played, but that doesn't stop Forant, whose modus operandi 
is to make outrageous statements of that sort, or statements that are 
incomprehensible (e.g. "[Mark] Jackson was fortunate enough to play 
for the Knick crazy Knicks and a heads up team like Indy..." -- 
"Knick crazy Knicks"? what does that _mean_?).  It is rare indeed for 
Forant to tackle the questions people pose to him, choosing instead 
to either misrepresent them or to ignore them and comment on 
something different (the aforementioned non sequiturs).

Probably what I find most egregious about Forant's posts are his 
mischaracterizations of fellow listmembers.  His most frequent target 
is Cecil Wright, mostly, I think, because Cecil likes to point out 
Forant's bullshit every now and again.  Calling Cecil a "blind fan" 
is just plain wrong.  I've seen Cecil criticize the team, certain 
players, and management, and so has everyone who pays attention to 
what is posted here.  Of course, everyone who doesn't immediately 
take a dump on some aspect of the team is some sort of blind pansy 
apologist for Pitino, Walker, the team in general, whatever.  I guess 
Forant thinks of himself as a straight-shooting, plain-talking tough 
guy who has the balls to tell it like it is (or, going to be).  Only 
problem is, his gunsight's a bit off, he talks about as plain as a 
Las Vegas hooker looks, and he sure isn't telling it like it is.  Ah, 
well, whaddayagonnado?

>But until they are eliminated from
>playoff contention this year, I will cheer for them, which is my right.

Imagine that -- actually cheering for the team to _win_.  The mind boggles.

Regards,

Bill

P.S. The real reason for this post is to suggest that people might 
edit down previous replies a bit in their messages to the list.  I'm 
getting quoted messages from seven replies ago, and it wouldn't be so 
bad, except I dislike seeing Forant's posts, _once_, much less 
multiple times.