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RE: Just An Opinion

To: "'Josh Farber'" <nbaj2k@home.com>
Subject: RE: Just An Opinion
From: OzerskyJA <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:21:28 -0400
Cc: "'celtics@igtc.com'" <celtics@igtc.com>
Sender: owner-celtics@igtc.com
Josh, I got these posts after I left work.  Did you read the ESPN article?
It's really depressing.  It sounds like all of the top ten players will be
taken
in the top ten.  Personally, I will be happy with OO or Stevenson (though
never Moiso), but there's no doubt that Crawford will be much better next
year.  As for Jackson, I love him, and I think we could get him for the $2 M
exception, if we let him be an assistant coach as well -- which I could see 
Pitino doing, and which he wants to do badly.  But Jackson can't come while
we have Kenny -- there would be too much bad blood, and anyway both are
defensive liabilities (Kenny to a lesser extent.)  Croshere has earned
himself a
Battie-sized contract, and if he has to settle for the exception it will be
with an 
elite team.

Josh Ozersky	
Marketing Communications Specialist 
Corning Museum of Glass

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Josh Farber [SMTP:nbaj2k@home.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:31 PM
> To:	OzerskyJA
> Subject:	Re: Just An Opinion
> 
> I just got the email from Way of Ray about Fortson.
> 
> That really sucks if we can't sign and trade him.  Maybe that's why Pitino
> pulled the trigger on that deal with Toronto.  He wanted to be sure we got
> something for him.
> 
> But then again, that deal really sucked anyone, and we really found out
> there is a God when we figured out a way out of the deal, by saying
> Williams
> failed his physical.
> 
> There's gotta be a way somehow to get something for him.
> 
> I really liked the deal someone came up with before which had Fortson
> going
> to Seattle for Patterson and Maxwell.
> 
> What do you think about the situation?
> 
> If you didn't get Way's Post, here it is.
> Josh
> 
> >>>>>http://home.digitalcity.com/boston/sportsguy/main.dci?page=asksg2
> 
> Sctmrl ASKS:
> In amongst the potential Walker trade discussions, and draft previews, I
> never see any mention what's happening with Danny Fortson. Is he out of
> here? Are there any trade scenarios where he re-signs and has a
> meaningful role? If he doesn't sign with Boston, where is he likely to
> go? He had his moments last year, and while he's probably in Pitino's
> doghouse, it seems like Rick has a big enough ego to try to tame the
> Fort, or keep him so he doesn't have to admit making a mistake in
> trading for him.
> 
> ****SG: I think Danny's a goner. The cap rules make it pretty difficult
> to pull of a sign-and-trade unless you're under the cap -- say they
> signed him to a $24 million deal like Battie's and he was making $3.1 in
> year one, his cap value would be just $1.55 million, which would mean
> they could only take a salary back of $1.55 million + 15% + $100,000,
> which would still be less than $2 million.
> 
> Plus, any sign-and-trade would hinge on Fortson wanting to do a
> sign-and-trade. Why wouldn't he just find a team like the Bucks or the
> Clippers -- two teams that could use him -- and sign with them that way?
> <<<<<<<
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "OzerskyJA" <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>
> To: "'Josh Farber'" <nbaj2k@home.com>; <celtics@igtc.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 6:12 PM
> Subject: RE: Just An Opinion
> 
> 
> > Some deep thinker on the list announced that we were
> > in love with Crawford weeks ago -- and gave in evidence the fact
> > that we hadn't had him in for a workout.  I don't know who I take
> > between him and Alexander.  If forced at gunpoint to choose without
> > working them both out and watching tape of both, I would say
> > Crawford for his upside.  I think you have a pretty good idea of
> > what alexander can do, and we don't really need a shooting specialist
> > in the starting lineup, not with Paul and Antoine. (and Kenny.)  He
> > might help in the 2nd unit, but Crawford could end up as our PG of
> > the future.
> >
> > Josh Ozersky
> > Marketing Communications Specialist
> > Corning Museum of Glass
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Josh Farber [SMTP:nbaj2k@home.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:00 PM
> > > To: OzerskyJA
> > > Subject: Re: Just An Opinion
> > >
> > > So do you think they'll take Barkley at 10?
> > >
> > > Have the Celtics worked out Crawford by the way?
> > > Has Orlando?
> > >
> > > Do you think he could come in and start some games for us next season?
> > > Maybe him being there could pressure Kenny to change.  Just a thought.
> > >
> > > How do you think the Magic's draft will pan out?  Assuming they take
> > > either
> > > Miles, Mihm, or Przbilla at 5, I would think they would take a Point
> at
> > > 10.
> > > The mock draft that Ray had had them taking Deshawn Stevenson.
> > >
> > > You would take Alexander over Crawford if he was there, right?  Or do
> you
> > > think Crawford is better.
> > >
> > > I heard Erick Barkley had a great workout for the Magic, so maybe
> they'll
> > > take him at 10.  That'll leave Crawford for us.  That's assuming they
> > > don't
> > > take him at 10.
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Josh
> > > Josh
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "OzerskyJA" <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>
> > > To: "'Josh Farber'" <nbaj2k@home.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:54 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Just An Opinion
> > >
> > >
> > > > The cavs stealing who?
> > > >
> > > > Between Crawford and OO, I would take Crawford every time.  It's
> > > > not even close.  the issue is between Stevenson and OO.  As for the
> > > > Magic, Rivers really likes Erick Barkley, so he might take him with
> > > > the last of their 34 picks in the first round.  I don't see him
> taking
> > > > two guards, unless he can't pass up Crawford.  But Miller is a big
> > > > name in Florida, and the Magic have fickle fans, so he might take
> > > > Miller at ten, leaving us with Crawford.
> > > >
> > > > Josh Ozersky
> > > > Marketing Communications Specialist
> > > > Corning Museum of Glass
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Josh Farber [SMTP:nbaj2k@home.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 4:43 PM
> > > > > To: OzerskyJA
> > > > > Subject: Re: Just An Opinion
> > > > >
> > > > > That's my brother's team.
> > > > > I pissed that this was supposed to be our year to make the
> playoffs,
> > > and
> > > > > the
> > > > > Magic's rebuilding year, but they still finished with a better
> record
> > > than
> > > > > us, they have better draft picks, and they have caproom.
> > > > >
> > > > > They even blew us out in a game this year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think Orlando will wanna take Stevenson at #10, or will
> they
> > > try
> > > to
> > > > > wait for him at #13.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you rather us take OO or Crawford, if it came down to both
> of
> > > them?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any chance of the Cavs stealing him from us?
> > > > >
> > > > > All of this Tsak stuff is making me sick.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please Celts, don't pick him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Josh
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "OzerskyJA" <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>
> > > > > To: "'Josh Farber'" <nbaj2k@home.com>
> > > > > Cc: <celtics@igtc.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:40 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Just An Opinion
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Orlando is hard to figure.  If I were them, I would
> > > > > > take a flyer on Stevenson, since they have so many
> > > > > > picks + a superstar free agent, why not?   They can
> > > > > > afford to.  Amazing how much luck that franchise has.
> > > > > > To get shaq and penny, and then lose them, and then
> > > > > > reload with youth, talent, chemistry, a great young coach....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > grrrr!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Josh Ozersky
> > > > > > Marketing Communications Specialist
> > > > > > Corning Museum of Glass
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Josh Farber [SMTP:nbaj2k@home.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 4:29 PM
> > > > > > > To: OzerskyJA
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Just An Opinion
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you think Orlando will take Stevenson at 10 leaving us with
> > > someone
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > want?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Crawford sounds really good too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your right, that would really suck if we draft OO and there
> aren't
> > > any
> > > > > > > highlights of him.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you know if the Celtics have their Draft special this year?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Josh
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "OzerskyJA" <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>
> > > > > > > To: "'Josh Farber'" <nbaj2k@home.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:03 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Just An Opinion
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Josh, I'm combining both your letters.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Crawford I've read a lot about.  Check out his draft
> profiles
> at
> > > > > > > > bskball.com, fox sports, nbatalk, etc.  He's big
> > > > > > > > and fast, has a great handle, and get play defense.  He's a
> > > combo
> > > > > guard,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > he's pick enough to play two, which
> > > > > > > > is why there is no danger of him being Chauncey Billups.  If
> > > billups
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > > three inches taller, he would have been
> > > > > > > > rookie of the year.  Moiso is a french Walter McCarty.  At
> least
> > > > > Walter
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > super aggressive; this guy is passive and soft.  I don't
> like
> > > him.
> > > > > My
> > > > > > > dream
> > > > > > > > pick is DerMarr Johnson; my realistic pick is Crawford or
> > > Alexander;
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > pick I expect us to
> > > > > > > > get is "OO" or Stevenson, both of whom would please me a
> lot.
> I
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > hope
> > > > > > > > there is some good highlight footage
> > > > > > > > of either, because that's the best part of the draft --
> other
> > > than
> > > > > > > seeing
> > > > > > > > the guys in their ridiculous double-breasted suits.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Josh Ozersky
> > > > > > > > Marketing Communications Specialist
> > > > > > > > Corning Museum of Glass
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Josh Farber [SMTP:nbaj2k@home.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 3:54 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: OzerskyJA
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Just An Opinion
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Have you heard anything about Crawford or Moiso?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've heard a little on Crawford, but not much on Moiso.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is Moiso just a tall Battie?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Crawford sounds like Billups to me.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So who do you think we will end up getting in the draft,
> and
> > > who
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > like us to get realistically?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do you think we'll trade for another pick?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Josh
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "OzerskyJA" <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>
> > > > > > > > > To: "'Josh Farber'" <nbaj2k@home.com>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 4:48 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Just An Opinion
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think Jamal Crawford reminds me a lot of Damon Jones.
> > > > > > > > > > I guess Jones wasn't that talented -- but still, it's
> not
> as
> > > if
> > > > > > > > > > big point guards are that rare.  Crawford is supposed to
> be
> > > > > > > > > > a rare talent.  I don't live near boston, but I might
> come
> > > out
> > > > > > > > > > to see a shaw league game if I can get a ticket.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Josh Ozersky
> > > > > > > > > > Marketing Communications Specialist
> > > > > > > > > > Corning Museum of Glass
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Josh Farber [SMTP:nbaj2k@home.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 3:42 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: OzerskyJA
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Just An Opinion
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I would too. Every year I look forward to draft day.
> It
> > > > > really
> > > > > > > sucked
> > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > us not having the 8th pick for Andre Miller.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Well, whatcha going to do.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I just hope we can get a guy that can be a dominant
> force
> > > > > right
> > > > > > > away.
> > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully someone that can start.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we can package Fortson and the pick for someone,
> or
> > > > > possibly
> > > > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > > pick higher.  I just don't see Fortson fitting in with
> the
> > > > > minutes
> > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > > > wants.
> > > > > > > > > > > It's really too bad with the kind of numbers he put up
> at
> > > the
> > > > > end
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > season.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What do we have money wise to spend for free agents?
> Just
> > > a
> > > > > 2mil
> > > > > > > > > > > exception
> > > > > > > > > > > or maybe a 1mil exception too?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to get Croshure and Jackson(especially since
> I
> > > hear
> > > > > > > Jackson
> > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > be a player/assistant coach).  What would it take to
> get
> > > the
> > > m?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Would Indiana take Fortson and something for Croshure
> and
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > sign
> > > > > > > > > > > Jackson with a 2mil exception?  Or are they both going
> to
> > > be
> > > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > sign and trades?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If they are, I'd trade just about anything except
> > > > > Pierce/Walker
> > > > > > > > > especially
> > > > > > > > > > > if it would give us some more cap room.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Do you live anywhere near Boston?  I'm going to
> aShaw's
> > > summer
> > > > > > > league
> > > > > > > > > game
> > > > > > > > > > > hopefully, but when I called for tickets, they said
> the
> > > > > tickets
> > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > > onsale,
> > > > > > > > > > > but the onsale date is postponed.  It's a great place
> to
> > > pick
> > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > autographs
> > > > > > > > > > > and talk with players.  Just about every player signs
> > > there.
> > > > > > > > > Hopefully
> > > > > > > > > > > whatever rookie we have will be there so I can see
> him,
> > > and
> > > > > report
> > > > > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > the list.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't mind trading Tony for a mid first rounder.
> > > Think
> > > > > > > that's
> > > > > > > > > > > possible?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'd also like to see us sign Chris Herren who I wish
> we
> > > > > drafted
> > > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > > year.
> > > > > > > > > > > Getting rid of Damon Jones I believe was a mistake.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What do ya think?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Josh
> > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: "OzerskyJA" <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > To: "'Josh Farber'" <nbaj2k@home.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 3:40 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Just An Opinion
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I got this one a little late, so it evens out.  If
> we
> > > get
> > > > > > > Crawford,
> > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if Portland wants him enough to take Kenny
> > > back,
> > > > > along
> > > > > > > > > > > > with his contract.  And maybe send us Greg Anthony
> > > and/or
> > > > > > > Jermaine
> > > > > > > > > > > > O'neal?  Honestly, I'd be bummed out if we didn't
> have
> a
> > > > > pick
> > > > > > > come
> > > > > > > > > > > > draft day.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Josh Ozersky
> > > > > > > > > > > > Marketing Communications Specialist
> > > > > > > > > > > > Corning Museum of Glass
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Josh Farber [SMTP:nbaj2k@home.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 2:24 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: OzerskyJA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Just An Opinion
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I really don't know much about OO except he is a
> beast
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > boards
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that he has a pretty big vertical leap.  I also
> know
> > > he
> > > > > won
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > dunk
> > > > > > > > > > > > > contest.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Stevenson, well he's a high school kid that
> averaged
> > > 30
> > > a
> > > > > > > game,
> > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > hard
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that he was the only one on his team that was any
> > > good,
> > > so
> > > > > he
> > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > shoot.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I also heard that he is a streaky shooter, and
> forces
> > > > > shots
> > > > > > > way
> > > > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > > > much.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If he's an exciting player to watch, I know that
> that
> > > > > alone
> > > > > > > woiuld
> > > > > > > > > > > fill
> > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME
> > > > > > > > > > > > > seats in the Fleetcenter.  But we want to draft to
> get
> > > > > better,
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > fill
> > > > > > > > > > > > > seats.  I still would love to get Alexander.  I
> would
> > > also
> > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > trade
> > > > > > > > > > > > > away Battie and get a late first round pick.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This draft seems pretty deep to me with Guards and
> > > > > swingmen.
> > > > > > > > > Quentin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Richardson also sounds good, but I think we could
> > > trade
> > > > > down
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > him.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If Tsak can't get out of his contract and that
> scares
> > > away
> > > > > > > people,
> > > > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > > > > why
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not trade for a late first round pick and draft
> him
> so
> > > we
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > him
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > future.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, if you haven't been here yet, here's
> his
> > > stat
> > > > > line
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > season.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > http://www.aek.com/basketball/roster/iakovos_tsakalides.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Andy Enfield signed for a couple of more years?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, if we got Tsak, he could help his on his
> free
> > > throw
> > > > > > > > > shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, what do you think?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I may be a little delayed in responding to your
> next
> > > > > message,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > still get it soon so respond right when you get
> this!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "OzerskyJA" <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: "'Josh Farber'" <nbaj2k@home.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 3:06 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Just An Opinion
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh, I don't have instant messenger, but my
> email
> > > is
> > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > > > close
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to instant.  What do you know about OO and
> > > Stevenson?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh Ozersky
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marketing Communications Specialist
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Corning Museum of Glass
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Josh Farber [SMTP:nbaj2k@home.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 1:42 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: OzerskyJA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Just An Opinion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have AOL Instant Messenger by chance?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then we can talk Celtics while we're both on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "OzerskyJA" <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: <mgriffin@rillc.com>; "Josh Farber"
> > > > > <nbaj2k@home.com>;
> > > > > > > > > > > "OzerskyJA"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>; "Way Of The Ray"
> > > > > > > <wayray@ix.netcom.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: <celtics@igtc.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 1:41 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Just An Opinion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, it looks like Crawford might
> well
> > > be
> > > > > > > picked
> > > > > > > > > ahead
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us too.  I am beginning to like OO and
> Stevenson
> > > > > more.
> > > > > > > OO
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > clearly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an animal on the boards, and will pick up
> > > defense
> > > > > fast.
> > > > > > > > > What
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stevenson's game is his Kobe-like interest
> in
> > > > > dishing
> > > > > > > along
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scoring.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He's not a point, but like Kobe, he can pick
> up
> > > six
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > seven
> > > > > > > > > > > assists
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > course
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of scoring his own 20.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh Ozersky
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marketing Communications Specialist
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Corning Museum of Glass
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Michael Griffin
> > > [SMTP:mgriffin@rillc.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 12:43 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Josh Farber; OzerskyJA; Way Of The Ray
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: celtics@igtc.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Just An Opinion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 6 days to go, my money is on Jamal
> > > Crawford
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > disclaimer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Demarr Johnson is the guy if he slips to
> us.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-celtics@igtc.com
> > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh Farber
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 8:08 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: OzerskyJA; Way Of The Ray
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: celtics@igtc.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Just An Opinion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One guy that can change that whole
> > > prediction
> > > is
> > > > > > > > > Tsakalidis.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard the Cavs are working him out
> this
> > > > > weekend.
> > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will go well, and hopfully he can get
> out
> of
> > > his
> > > > > > > > > contract
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > play
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the NBA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (as long as it's not on the Celtics!).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another variable I think is Darius Miles
> and
> > > the
> > > > > > > Chicago
> > > > > > > > > > > Bulls.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thought that since this Mihm-Magloire
> > > workout
> > > > > thing
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > hyped
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up, it was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really a play to ensure that Mihm will
> be
> > > > > available
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > #4.
> > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know that the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bulls could wait and pick up probably
> > > Pryzbilla
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > #7
> > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know.  Isn't Przbilla another one of
> those
> > > slow
> > > > > Luc
> > > > > > > > > Longley
> > > > > > > > > > > kina
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > guys?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see Alexander going #7 to the Bulls
> after
> > > > > drafting
> > > > > > > Mihm
> > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #4(just like many
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mock drafts predict).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, I really think the guy
> that
> > > will
> > > > > slip
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > draft
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander, but Mike Miller.  I have
> heard
> > > many
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also many doubts.  I do think that
> Atlanta
> > > will
> > > > > pick
> > > > > > > > > either
> > > > > > > > > > > him
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or Johnson,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I don't know if them picking Johnson
> > > will
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > scare
> > > > > > > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > teams.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, with the 10th pick, who do the
> Magic
> > > > > choose?
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > see
> > > > > > > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > choosing Stevenson as long as they don't
> > > choose
> > > > > > > Miles
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > #5
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pick.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After thinking about all the
> possibilities,
> > > I
> > > > > could
> > > > > > > see
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prediction
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happening, but many pieces would have to
> > > fall
> > > > > into
> > > > > > > > > place.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard that Courtney Alexander is
> a
> > > Rookie
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > Year
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > type, so maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we could really get a steal, especially
> if
> > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > fully
> > > > > > > > > > > > > heal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone thinks he will.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really hope we get Alexander.  Then we
> > > could
> > > > > move
> > > > > > > > > Pierce
> > > > > > > > > > > over
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the 3 and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Walker back to the 4.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we do end up getting Croshure too, if
> we
> > > > > draft
> > > > > > > > > Alexander
> > > > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably means we will trade for him
> > > possibly
> > > > > Walker
> > > > > > > (I
> > > > > > > > > hope
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unless Alexander comes in and comes off
> the
> > > > > bench.
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > > > > see
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > picking up a Mark Jackson type.  (I'm
> not
> > > saying
> > > > > > > Mark
> > > > > > > > > > > Jackson
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > specifically,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but atleast a point guard.  Otherwise I
> do
> > > not
> > > > > see
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > > Croshure
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could start
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for us.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander is the only guy I could see
> the
> > > > > Celtics
> > > > > > > > > drafting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > having
> > > > > > > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immediate impact (Barring Johnson
> falling
> to
> > > > > us).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not doubting anyone, so don't rip up
> > > what
> > > I
> > > > > say
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > anything!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's why I would salivate over an
> > > opportunity
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > him.
> > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know if all of the things I said above
> will
> > > > > happen.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I surely hope so!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any comments on
> anything
> > > I
> > > > > said!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "OzerskyJA" <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: <celtics@igtc.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 11:23 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Why Miller Might Go Before
> > > Alexander
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was reading the fox sports scouting
> > > profiles
> > > > > > > (which
> > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best-written,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anyway)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and they really laid into Miller as
> slow,
> > > etc.
> > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really got
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of talent and will be a real
> weapon.
> > > > > But
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > come
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > said
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that a franchise like Atlanta or
> > > Cleveland
> > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > built-in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basketball
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tradition and loyal fans, and so the
> GMs
> > > are
> > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > > > > thinking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > white star could do to fill seats.  As
> > > opposed
> > > > > to,
> > > > > > > > > say,
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Courtney
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander's posse busting caps and
> tapping
> > > ass
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > over
> > > > > > > > > > > town.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agree
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray--
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that guy had the best draft
> > > prediction
> > > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > > > seen.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Amazing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > little these
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > draft "experts" think through theirs.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh Ozersky
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marketing Communications Specialist
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Corning Museum of Glass
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
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