RE: Today's Thoughts.

["Michael Griffin" <mgriffin@rillc.com>]

Perhaps my knowledge is inferior to this board but I don't agree with that
assessment at all.  If you, as a GM, would actually prefer Mutumbo?!,
Malone?!(clearly downside of career), Payton, Kidd, or Zo over Webber - then
there isn't any need to have much of a discussion.  I'll give you Duncan and
Shaq.  Kobe is rising, I'd put Webber right there with KG and over Hill.

Walker and Webber are NOT close talent-wise.  Webber is a warrior down low
and unstoppable in the post.  Pierce "may" also be rising but he plays a
position that is replaceable.  Just because Pitino gave Walker the max
doesn't mean he is on-par talent wise with other players receiving the max.
Walker may yet fulfill his potential but Webber has led Sacramento to the
playoffs two years in a row when he is basically the only option there.
Webber is doing for Sacramento what Walker should have done for two years in
a row for Boston.

I guess I think Webber is indeed a franchise player and if he were a free
agent he'd be more coveted than anyone in this year's group excluding
Duncan.

Let's take a poll here.  Would you classify Webber as a Franchise player or
not?  I mean rumor or not, people have actually printed a sign and trade
with Indiana - Walker for Croshere.  Webber and Croshere are two words that
would NEVER be in the same sentence.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: OzerskyJA [mailto:OzerskyJA@cmog.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 6:11 AM
> To: 'mgriffin@rillc.com'; Celtics@igtc.com
> Subject: RE: Today's Thoughts.
>
>
> Funny how we both accused John of being high.  But
> I think you go too far.  Any GM would be retarded not
> to trade Webber for Walker and Pierce.  Webber and
> Walker is pretty much a wash, talentwise, with Chris
> having maxed out his upside, and Walker only being
> 50-50 on ever reaching his (if that).  But for Walker
> AND Pierce, I would want a franchise player.  C-Webb
> has never been and never will be that.  Top three?  I wouldn't
> even put him in the top ten:  Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, KG, Hill,
> Payton, Kidd, Zo, Malone, Mutumbo.
>
> Josh Ozersky
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Michael Griffin [SMTP:mgriffin@rillc.com]
> > Sent:	Monday, July 24, 2000 5:35 PM
> > To:	john polyak; Celtics@igtc.com
> > Subject:	RE: Today's Thoughts.
> >
> > Not to sound offensive, but are you on drugs?  There is no way Webber is
> > coming to Boston with Antoine and Pierce still on the roster.  In fact,
> > Sactown wouldn't trade Webber straight up for Walker and Pierce and
> > neither
> > would any sane GM.  Webber might be top 3.  With shaq out of the way,
> > Webber
> > might have been the MVP last year.  Forston for Spree doesn't work under
> > the
> > cap rules.  I think that has been posted before.  Hey, no harm
> in wishful
> > thinking but your scenario is not possible.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-celtics@igtc.com
> [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On Behalf Of
> > > john polyak
> > >
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 1:55 PM
> > > To: Celtics@igtc.com
> > > Subject: Today's Thoughts.
> > >
> > >
> > > Derek Anderson is talking about San Antonio, what with all the
> > > opportunity to join a very good team.  If the price is right, he
> > > will go to Denver, imo.  He likes Denver, also.  The price on the
> > > table must be big, since Denver is shipping out 3 contracts.
> > > And, Abdul-Wahad's contract is going to be nice.  TAW and Herron
> > > supposedly play good defense.  I welcome these two with open
> > > arms.  Mercer doesn't play defense at the level of TAW.  This is
> > > a good deal.  I think we can trade Fortson for Sprewell.  Why?
> > > Because Webber wants to play with Spree next season.  He has said
> > > so.  Tell NY to take some cap crap with Danny for Spree.  Next
> > > season, maybe we'll have space to fit Antoine, Pierce, Webber,
> > > Spree, and TAW under the cap.  If Portland can figure out how to
> > > fit that many superstars under the cap, so can we.  The
> > > manuevering is possible.  Beantown, with Antoine, Pierce, Spree,
> > > and TAW must be more attractive than other free agent
> > > possibilities.  I'm sure some stars don't worr!
> > > y about sharing minutes; the stars in the City of Roses don't.
> > >
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