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Re: I don't have a thing against Walker, but...
I like the idea of O'Neal or Croshere coming to Boston
because they have loads of potential. As for Vin
Baker, even when he was on the Buck and scoring all
those points, he was a huge black hole. Passes would
go in and never come out because he was a ball hog.
We already have too many of those on the team (ball
hogs). Plus I hear Baker's work ethic has gone down
the drain as evidenced by his lackluster performance
last season. As for Grant, if he did come to Boston,
I hope his foot is fully rehabilitated so he can get
back to All Star status. But in all reality, Grant
and Baker will already have the money and will want to
go to a contender and not a pretender like the C's are
now.
R
--- Thndrblt31@aol.com wrote:
> This is from NBA Talk:
>
> >> July 25, 2000, 8:51:16 AM
>
> Power Forward Shuffle
>
>
> Might makes right.
>
> Think about it. Tim Duncan. Kevin Garnett. Chris
> Webber. Karl Malone. Rasheed
> Wallace. Bare knuckled box outs and broken
> backboards. Greasy, grimy justice.
> Power forwards rule the NBA.
>
> So in this week's rumorTalk, we're going
> redistribute some of that power,
> saving a few franchises in the process while
> enabling a few other ones to
> remain on top. All in all, we're talking 6 power
> forwards, 5 teams, 4
> options, sign and trades, BYC's and even the
> infamous 15% plus 100k allowance.
>
> The CBA put up the wall. NBAtalk is breaking it down
> with the Power Forward
> Shuffle.
>
> After all, you don't send in a boy to do a man's
> job.
>
> WARNING BEAT WRITERS: These deals are hypotheticals.
> . . we're playing GM,
> but it doesn't mean we are GMs. So no more stories
> about how this thing is a
> day away from happening.
>
>
> Option 1
>
>
>
> Pacers Get: Celtics Get: Bulls Get:
> Jamal Crawford Austin Croshere Antoine Walker
> Marcus Fizer Zan Tabak
>
> Why it works for INDIANA:
> The Pacers can't possibly hope of signing all of
> their free agents. Jalen
> Rose remains the priority while Croshere will become
> expendable with the
> emergence of Jonathan Bender. This deal infuses the
> decrepit Pacers with not
> only young players, but two who can play multiple
> positions right alongside
> Rose.
>
> Why it works for BOSTON:
> It's one of the worst kept secrets in the league.
> Pitino wants to move Walker
> in the worst way but he's run out of time to rebuild
> the Celtics from
> scratch. He needs someone who can step in
> immediately and score points.
> Croshere is not near the player that Walker is at
> this point, but he's
> certainly better than nothing. Walker's reputation
> precedes him. Pitino's not
> going to get much more.
> Why it works for CHICAGO:
> Because we still can't figure out why Jerry Krause
> hasn't been tarred and
> feathered yet. No Duncan, Hill or McGrady. Not even
> Tim Thomas. Antoine
> Walker gives them an immediate all star who can put
> up big numbers. Plus,
> Walker is from Chicago. He may benefit from the trip
> home.
>
> How it works for INDIANA:
> The Pacers are taking back two rookies who have a
> combined salary of $4.32
> million. Austin Croshere is expected to sign for
> around $6 million a year,
> making him a 50% BYC player with a trade value of $3
> million. Zan Tabak's
> $1.2 million adds up to $4.2 million, running it
> through the CBA's allowance
> of 15% plus 100k makes the cap space $4.93 total.
>
> How it works for BOSTON:
> Antoine Walker is making $9 million but is in his
> second year of BYC, so his
> trade value is $6.75 million, which Croshere's $6
> million will fit nicely.
> How it works for CHICAGO:
> The Bulls are set up to recieve two MAX contracts
> without problem so taking
> Walker in wouldn't be a problem, and they'll be
> clearing another $4.32
> million in the process. Throughout this process,
> they're looking at absorbing
> throw-in contracts (Minor and Barkley) to make these
> deals work cap-wise.
>
> Why it doesn't work:
> Because Pitino has already said that if the Celtics
> don't make the playoffs
> next season, he'll step down voluntarily. Croshere
> is not a franchise player
> despite his ability to command a MAX deal. He is a
> nice building block for
> the future, but Pitino doesn't have that luxury.
>
> Option 2
>
> Blazers Get: Celtics Get: Bulls Get:
>
> Jamal Crawford Jermaine O'Neal Antoine Walker
> Marcus Fizer Erick
> Barkley
>
> Why it works for PORTLAND:
> The Blazers are log jammed at the power forward
> position. Jermaine O'Neal is
> screaming for more playing time because he can't see
> the light of day behind
> Rasheed Wallace and Brian Grant. This deal gives
> Portland two more young
> studs to put in the stable that they've coveted all
> along.
>
> Why it works for BOSTON:
> Pitino was willing to give up six draft picks on
> draft day to get O'Neal. As
> mentioned before, Walker is on the outs in Beantown
> and O'Neal would give the
> Celts an inside presence they sorely lack
>
> Why it works for CHICAGO:
> See above. Plus, they get a feisty point guard in
> Barkley.
>
> How it works for PORTLAND:
> O'Neal is on the books for $5.81 million but is a
> second year BYC player
> (after 8/2), making his trade value $4.35 million.
> Barkley is at $712,000,
> making their total value $5 million. Crawford and
> Fizer combine for $4.32 so
> it's tight, but okay.
>
> How it works for BOSTON:
> Walker's trade value is $6.75 million while O'Neal
> is at $5 million. Boston
> actually gains cap space in this deal.
> How it works for CHICAGO:
> As mentioned above, the Bulls have enough room for
> two MAX deals, so taking
> in Walker's and Barkley's $9.71 million won't be a
> problem.
>
> Why it doesn't work:
> Again, O'Neal does not yet command the same
> offensive presence of Walker who
> is a 20 point/ 10 rebound player. As valuable as
> athletic 7-footers are in
> the league, O'Neal still does not put the Celtics in
> the playoffs next year
> which puts Pitino out the door.
>
> Option 3
>
> Blazers Get: Celtics Get: Bulls Get:
> Jamal Crawford Brian Grant Antoine Walker
> Marcus Fizer Greg Minor
>
> Why it works for PORTLAND:
> See above.
>
> Why it works for BOSTON:
> This is by far the Celtics' best option. When
> healthy, Brian Grant is an all
> star power forward who plays tough defense and
> attacks the glass. And in the
> Eastern Conference, he'll even score a lot more
> points than he ever did on
> the West Coast. His style of play will actually
> allow Paul Pierce to operate
> more freely in the paint. The two won't be fighting
> over shots or running
> into each other. If Pitino is going to make a run
> for the playoffs, this
> is his best bet.
>
> Why it works for CHICAGO:
> See above.
>
> How it works for PORTLAND:
> Brian Grant is expected to sign for the MAX, making
> him a BYC player with a
>
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