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Re: Celtics Projected To Take Dooling (fwd)
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Griffin <mgriffin@rillc.com>
To: Elgin W Booth <ewbooth@cisunix.unh.edu>; <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 4:36 AM
Subject: RE: Celtics Projected To Take Dooling (fwd)
> I like Matt Santangelo as a sleeper pick in the 2nd round. I'd try and
> package picks to get Mihm if the price is not too steep or I'd try and pry
> Kandi from the Clips if we can unload a salary in that deal.
>
> If we stay pat I like Mo Peterson as our first round pick. Hopefully
Denver
> just stinks up the joint next year and we have a top 10 pick next year
which
> could net us Swift or the forward from Duke whose name escapes me (staying
> for his senior year) but he rounded out his game this year and is appears
to
> be a defensive minded player.
Shane Battier of Duke...very solid defender.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On Behalf Of
> > Elgin W Booth
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 12:31 PM
> > To: celtics@igtc.com
> > Subject: Re: Celtics Projected To Take Dooling (fwd)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:29:58 -0400
> > From: Elgin W Booth <ewbooth@hypatia.unh.edu>
> > To: Way Of The Ray <wayray@ix.netcom.com>
> > Newsgroups: alt.sports.basketball.nba.boston-celtics
> > Subject: Re: Celtics Projected To Take Dooling
> >
> > I have seen Speedy Claxton play twice in person vs. my college (New
> > Hampshire and Hofstra play in the same conference). He is an incredible
> > athlete and tough defender, but come on, he is 5-10 without much of an
> > outside shot. The guy is not going to make much of impact in the NBA. He
> > does not have the perimeter game to really make it and is more of a
> > scoring mentality than a distributor. I don't think he's a first round
> > pick, I can't believe people are rating him that high. In the games I
have
> > seen, he took it to the hole very nicely and threw down an incredible
> > two-handed alley-oop dunk, but his shot was all over the place. He
> > definitely wasn't dominating the game, even against my school. I would
> > only rate him the 6th or 7th best point in the draft IMHO.
> >
> > Say no to Mateen. I think Speedy
> > > Claxton could turn out to be the best point guard in the
> > > draft, and my point guard sleepers are Shaheen Holloway and Matt
> > > Santangelo.
> >
> > Mihm is going to be a good NBA player. Comparisons to Travis Knight are
> > absolutely ridiculous. Have you seen him play? I have seen him on TV 4
or
> > 5 times over the past two years and he is very solid. He is extremely
> > coordinated for a big man and shoots with either hand. He has a very
nice
> > jump shot which will really help him. He is not going to dominate games
in
> > the NBA, but I think he will be able to average 14-15 points a game and
> > get a lot of rebounds. He is 7 feet and pretty strong, with the frame to
> > add more muscle. He would be a definite upgrade from Vitaly. I think
> > he is a definite top 5 pick if he comes out, and he is much more
developed
> > than Pryzbilla at this point.
> >
> > > > I think you're far out in left field on Mihm - He's similar to Divac
> > > and that's good enough for me, but not for the Celtics apparently,
> > > to judge by the comments uttered by Leo Papile, who was much higher on
> > > Stromile Swift than Mihm.
> > > Ray
> >
> > Swift will be very good, I am very glad he is staying in college another
> > year. That should really help him and allow him to become a big-time
> > player in college before he enters the draft.
> >
> > > "Robert Tukey Jr." wrote:
> > > >
> > > > RJ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Way Of The Ray wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > }Dooling: I'm having Chauncey flashbacks - I think they may go for
> > > > > }the sporty foreign model: Oyedeji or Tsakalidis...
> > > > > }
> > > > > }Top slot now 2000 Mock Draft
> > > > > }By: John Thompson
> > > > > }Date: 04/25/2000
> > > > > }Kenyon Martin or Chris Mihm? Well at this moment
> > officially only Martin
> > > > > }is the choice, but if Mihm or rather when Mihm declares,
> > it will start a
> > > > > }huge debate on which player is likely the top pick of the
> > draft. Number
> > > > > }three, well...
> > > > > }
> > > > > }
> > > > > }
> > > > > }Seniors and Current Declared Underclassmen
> > > > > }First Round
> > > > > }1. Los Angeles Clippers - Kenyon Martin, 6-10, Power Forward
> > > > > }With Martin, they shore up the fact that Taylor may leave
> > and is likely
> > > > > }to go. Kenyon is also the frontrunner for the rookie of
> > they year award
> > > > > }if he can come back from his injury. If Mihm comes out, He
> > will end up
> > > > > }being the top pick, but the Clippers are not likely to
> > pick here, as
> > > > > }they don't really need a point guard. If the lottery gives them
the
> > > > > }pick, look for them to trade it, as Mihm is just too good
> > of a center to
> > > > > }pass up at number one. He is better than Olowokandi, which
> > means they
> > > > > }may even trade the Kandi man for a mid-to-late first round
> > pick or good
> > > > > }starting caliber point guard.
> > > > >
> > > > > If Martin is healthy enough to be tested by the combines, he is
the
> > > > > #1. If he is still recovering, I'd try to trade down or into next
> > > > > year's draft. If Mihm is available, take him.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm not in the least sold on Mihm--he reminds me too much of Travis
> > > > Knight and not, say, Mike Doleac or Brad Miller, guys who have
skills
> > > > *and* toughness. I consider Mihm in the top-10 a wasted pick.
> > > >
> > > > > }3. Orlando Magic - Jerome Moiso, 6-10, Power Forward
> > > > > }Orlando has good guards, even though Mercer is a free
> > agent, so they
> > > > > }want to take care of the inside and Moiso is the best
> > athlete among the
> > > > > }power forwards and would fit in well in the Magic system.
> > They would
> > > > > }take Stromile Swift, if he came out. If Moiso indeed
> > changes his mind
> > > > > }and stays in school, which isn't likely at this moment,
> > they would be
> > > > > }happy with Marcus Fizer or picking up one of the shooting
> > guards. They
> > > > > }are likely just to take the best available player no
> > matter of position.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now this is the team for Alexander. Doc Rivers should be able to
> > > > > help complete the young man's game and help turn him into the
> > > > > off-guard that Penny Hardaway was supposed to be.
> > > > >
> > > > It makes more sense than the Bulls. I realize you draft talent
first,
> > > > position second, but I don't see a clear-cut #1 this
> > year--the top 5 or
> > > > so look to be similar in talent and potential, so Alexander
> > wouldn't be
> > > > a bad pick-up here, especially since, with Artest there, the
> > Bulls would
> > > > have to consider Alexander somewhat redundant.
> > > > > }
> > > > > }6. Chicago Bulls - Joel Pryzbilla, 7-1, Center
> > > > > }Chicago's second pick is going to be one of the most
> > interesting in the
> > > > > }draft. They need so much and in so many areas, they go
> > draft anyone with
> > > > > }this pick. If they can't get Mihm, they are sure going to
> > try to get
> > > > > }Pryzbilla or to relieve some pressure against Brand. They
> > still hope for
> > > > > }Duncan, but will need a back up plan. This pick could go
> > to Washington,
> > > > > }if they get the luck of the bounding ball and get into the
> > top three.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nope. Again, too many character questions for Krause & Co. Mo
> > > > > Peterson looks to be the pick here.
> > > > >
> > > > The Bulls may look at him and decide it's worth the risk. I'm
> > not going
> > > > to pretend I know enough about him to say one way or the
> > other, but the
> > > > Nuggets took a risk on Keon Clark and it may yet pay off (he made
some
> > > > marked improvement this year). This kid sounds talented, and
> > Brand would
> > > > have a true center playing alongside him instead of a pseudo-pivot
guy
> > > > like Anstey. Peterson may yet be the guy taken, though--he
> > can certainly
> > > > shoot.
> > > >
> > > > > }10. Boston Celtics - Keyon Dooling, 6-3, Point Guard
> > > > > }Although the point guard spot isn't needed badly for
> > Boston, but Kenny
> > > > > }Anderson may be on his way out. Just like the Nets, the Celtics
are
> > > > > }having chemistry problems at times. Dooling isn't ready to
> > start right
> > > > > }away, but playing a year behind Anderson or maybe getting
> > in another vet
> > > > > }to play ahead of him for a year or two would be great for
> > Dooling and he
> > > > > }could become a star in a few years. The Celts could also look to
go
> > > > > }inside and shore up the center spot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, if I'm the Celtics I dive on Mateen Cleaves if he is
> > > > > here. Yes, others are faster, stronger, younger,
> > > > > whatever. Cleaves, however, has shown the determination and work
> > > > > ethic to make a team a _winner_. This guy would be a great
> > > > > influence on Toine and others.
> > > > >
> > > > He seems to have the Tim Hardaway/Dennis Johnson mentality--his
teams
> > > > just win. He hates losing. I do like that kind of player on my team.
> > > > Alongside Griffin, he could add a voice to get the more
lethargic/less
> > > > intelligent players moving.
> > > >
> > > > > Take him!
> > > > >
> > > > I think I would. He has a will to win--something a few guys
> > on this team
> > > > seem to be missing or to have misdirected.
> > > >
> > > > > }Chicago will need a point guard out of this draft, B.J.
> > has retired,
> > > > > }Randy Brown isn't a pure point and that is pretty much it
> > for them. They
> > > > > }will never make the playoffs without a point guard that can play
35
> > > > > }minutes of the game. The Bulls would like to get Cleaves, Penn,
or
> > > > > }Claxton if they fall, but are likely to settle with the
> > second tier.
> > > > > }A.J. Guyton is another player that could be picked up by them
here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree with the assessment. Cleaves would be a very good fit for
> > > > > the team. See if they can get him.
> > > >
> > > > Won't be easy unless they take him #7 (assuming the picks fall as
> > > > expected). Fred Hoiberg may be the starting PG there next year if
they
> > > > believe he can stay healthy a full season.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Robert Tukey
> > > > rtukey@us.ibm.com
> > > > "Logic is the systematic method of arriving at the wrong conclusion
> > > > with confidence." -- Murphy's Law Postulate
> > >
> >
> >
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