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Re: trades



The Rockets trade for Stoudamire was not fair but still a much better deal
than the proposed trade for Googs. At least in that case Toronto got a 
legitimate big man (which Knight is not), a draft pick, and cap room.
The Pheonix trade for McDyess, even though it was considered grossly unfair
by many, is also a much better deal, because Gugliotta is a better proven 
player than McDyess, and the draft picks, unlike Knight, don't come with 
seven-year contracts. In both cases the GMs are inexperienced, and the Toronto 
trade didn't even go off. You can believe that McHale will not be such a fool.

As for whether Marbury will be given a big money contract, who knows? He may
be the one to get traded. He's not fond of Minnesota and reportedly wants
Garnett money. But they'll wait until the offseason to see.

Let's look for realistic scenarios. If Gugliotta is truly going to be traded, 
I bet he'll fetch better than McDyess. Minnesota will be empty in the middle 
with holes at 4 or 5; that is why Riley offered P.J. Brown and Ike Austin 
(and was rejected). Most likely they'll get offers of good second-tier 
centers like Willis, Austin, Campbell or strong power forwards in package
deals with shooting guards. We probably have nothing to offer because we
will not part with Antoine. A realistic offer would probably be something like
Mercer, Knight, and our first round pick, plus possibly taking on some salaries.

Alex


> Yes anyone who wouldn't choose Gugliotta over the two might be questioned, 
> but if Minnesota is going to give Marbury a big $ contact, which they would 
> be silly not to,  they can not afford to get a player with a big $ contract 
> in return for Gugliotta.  If you recall the Twins have had a tough time 
> paying players due to the small market.  Not that it is going to happen but 
> do you think the Rockets offer for Stoudamire that almost went through was 
> equitable ?  Was the Phoenix trade for McDyess equitable ?  Anything can 
> happen.
> 
> On Sunday, January 25, 1998 1:59 PM, Alex Wang [SMTP:awang@MIT.EDU] wrote:
> > My point was not that the situations are exactly the same, but that
> > in both cases, Seattle and Minnesota had players that they could
> > probably not satisfy salary-wise. Everyone knew that Seattle was going
> > to move Kemp, just as many people expect Minnesota to move Gugliotta.
> > That doesn't mean that Minnesota is inclined to practically give
> > Gugliotta away.
> >
> > I think if you asked any NBA executive what they though of Gugliotta
> > for McCarty and Knight, they would tell you that it is an obscenely
> > unfair trade that would never happen. I don't want to get into an
> > extended debate about this, but I would bet that if you asked any
> > member of this list, "Would you rather have Gugliotta or McCarty and
> > Knight?" no one would think twice about taking Gugliotta.
> >