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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:38:47 -0500
From: bocelts@scsn.net (R. Bentz Kirby)
Subject: League's offer rejected again

Here is a url to the ESPN article about the League's final offer.  The
league has upped the percentage to 53% in year 4, 53.5% in year 5 and
54% in year 6.  There were other consessions made as well.  The Union
apparently has rejected this.  I think that this is an ego battle, but
Hunter is just a pawn.  Falk and Tellum are looking to face down the
owners.  I think the owners have no choice but to shut down the season
rather than make a deal with the twin devils.

http://espn.go.com/nba/news/1998/981227/01013807.html

I wish the players had a brain to think with, would cut the agents out,
and take a private vote.  I notice some other players have surfaced
wanting to take a vote.  The power is with the wrong people.  If it is
such a bad deal, just let the players vote it down.  No problem, right!


- -- 
Bentz
bocelts@scsn.net

http://www.scsn.net/users/sclaw

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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 05:37:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Josh Ozersky <josh_ozersky@yahoo.com>
Subject: The End

I think this is about the end.  As long as the executive committee is
made up of high-end David Falk clients and as long as the rank and
file aren't allowed to vote until the committee approves, the season
is doomed.  The League's proposal caps upscale salaries at a
relatively low 12 million, even for the Michael Jordans and Patrick
Ewings who have been in the league ten years.  I myself think I could
live with giant salaries for ten year veterans as long as players had
reasonable salaries the first nine years, but I guess the owners want
to get this thing in hand.  But there's no way the union will accept
it.  My question is, when will the lockout end?  If this season is
cancelled, will the players play next season, or will the league be
buried alive for the sake of Alonzo Mourning's contract?  It seems to
me that even if the players wake up, there's nothing they can really
do unless some player like Kevin Willis or Brian Shaw overthrows the
executive committee.  Amazing this hasnt happened already, when you
consider the number of veterans in the league who aren't easily
intimidated -- the Terry Cummings, Dennis Rodmans, Oakley's, Doc
Rivers, etc. who can't possibly benefit from high end rulings.  And a
lot of these guys have agents who are going broke -- but Falk still
seems to have all the power.  Wonder if that will continue when Jordan
finally leaves.  Damn Falk and Damn Alonzo and Patrick.  Billy Hunter
too.

I think we can forget about the season now.

Josh

When will it all end?





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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:50:07 EST
From: Georgek27@aol.com
Subject: Re: The End

In a message dated 12/28/98 8:39:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,
josh_ozersky@yahoo.com writes:

<< When will it all end? >>

Good question. If the season is scrapped when will they sit down again?
September?
The "urgency" will be gone and we'll begin the same nonsense again - a meeting
or 2 in September, another one that lasts 22 minutes in October... 

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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:49:09 -0400
From: "Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.andara.com>
Subject: Re: The End

- -----Original Message-----
From: Josh Ozersky <josh_ozersky@yahoo.com>
To: celtics@igtc.com <celtics@igtc.com>
Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 9:45 AM
Subject: The End


>Amazing this hasnt happened already, when you
>consider the number of veterans in the league who aren't easily
>intimidated -- the Terry Cummings, Dennis Rodmans, Oakley's, Doc
>Rivers, etc. who can't possibly benefit from high end rulings.

I agree with you Josh, but isn't Doc Rivers in the broadcast booth now?  I
don't think the high ranking players give a holy heck about anything except
getting what they want period.  Already players and individuals have
condemned the union's position such as Isiah Thomas, Bob Cousy, Bill Russell
etc.  If players like that, who put the current guys in position to make
what they're making now, have negative views of the procedure being employed
by Hunter, something's wrong.

History will not be kind to Hunter or these high-paid players/agents.

Cecil

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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:41:50 EST
From: Douglas342@aol.com
Subject: Re: The End

In a message dated 12/28/98 7:39:22 AM Central Standard Time,
josh_ozersky@yahoo.com writes:

> The League's proposal caps upscale salaries at a
>  relatively low 12 million, even for the Michael Jordans and Patrick
>  Ewings who have been in the league ten years.
      Even with Ray's efforts to keep us updated, there are lots of things
about the union and league positions that are unclear, at least to me.  But I
think that the above statement is wrong. While there is a proposed cap on
high-end salaries, I think it is in terms of a percentage of the team cap, and
as the team cap goes up, so do salaries.  And the figure $15 mil rings a bell
somewhere, not 12 mil.  Maybe that's when the luxury tax kicks in?
     I'd love to see someone do a side-by-side analysis of where the two sides
stand at this point.  For some reason, I think they're closer than we tend to
think.

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