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The Boston Celtics Mailing List Digest
 Saturday, December 20 1997 Volume 04 : Number 407



In this issue:

        Jones, Massenburg
        Re: All rookie predictions
        The Big Zero and Marcu$ Camby
        NBA on Satellite TV
        NBA Dumps Dunk Contest
        Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest
        Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest
        Two-on-two pairings
        Duncan compared to Bird...
        Two-on-two pairings -Reply
        Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest
        Pervis on Channel 68?
        Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest
        Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest
        Re: Two-on-two pairings -Reply
        Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest
        ANNOUNCER'S REMARKS
        Walker
        pickem
        two ball
        Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest
        Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:14:53 -0500
From: Chris Littlefield <chris@mjr.com>
Subject: Jones, Massenburg

I apologize if I'm redundant with my responses, but I get the digest
version so am not entirely sure if these questions have been answered.

With regard to Massenburg, it appears that Otis Thorpe is out.  He has not
played the last couple games and Massenburg has started in his place.
Massenburg is not that bad of a player.  He did some real good work with
New Jersey last year, and I think will be worth his 3 year, roughly $3 mil
contract from the C's.  But like Chris Mills, his skillset did not really
match what Pitino wanted.  Thus he is gone, and we have Roy Rogers on IR,
though he admittedly does not take up the cap space or time (2 years left
on contract instead of 3) that Tony does.


Theresa was asking about Dontae Jones:

"Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:33:42 -0500
From: Theresa Lee <tjoyce@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Dontae's jump

What is Jones' background? Tommy H. was talking about what a great
offensive threat he is. I'm not sure we want him to be Rodman if he can
score. This team needs offense right now.

Theresa"



        Theresa, Jones came out of Mississippi State 2 years ago and was
the primary reason that that team went to the Final Four.  That was the
same year that Kentucky with McCarty, Walker and Mercer won it all, yet
Mississippi State was the last team to beat Kentucky that year, punching
them out pretty badly in the SEC Tournament Finals.  Jones rang up
something like 28 points, 11 rebounds.  They were calling him Dontae's
Inferno.

        He's got all the tools.  He a strong 6'8" with, as has been said,
formidable athleticism.  He's also an extremely gifted offensive player
from what I've been able to tell.  What's impressed me more than his
leaping has been his speed down the court and what moves we've seen.  I've
seen some real nice composure.  One play against Philly he came off a curl
through the middle, received the pass from Thomas.  Then, noticing that the
path to the hoop was blocked, he stopped, dribbled, stepped _back_ one step
and popped off a soft 8-footer.  Nothing but net.

        That said and done, he's not known for his defense, though the
tools are there.  Additionally, he does not seem to have a conscience.  No
shots he's not willing to take.  He's also got to fight for minutes not
only with McCarty, Mercer, and Bowen, but also at this point Greg Minor and
Dee Brown.  He's buried.

        My thought when the trade with New York went down was that Jones
would be the key, not McCarty.  I think that if he got significant time, he
has the most potential.  I hope he gets that time, or at least a chance.

        Have a good weekend, C's fans.  Here's to .500 on Sunday after the
Clippers!!

Chris

PS. What's up with that Stackhouse Trade?

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:47:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Fung Yee Danny Lim <dlim@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: All rookie predictions

I love Mercer, but the way the he's playing now, relative to the way that
Van Horn and Duncan are playing, I don't think he'd get anywhere close to
being the ROY. I mean, Van Horn's putting up huge scoring numbers (and
little else, I must say) and Duncan's been the preseason favorite, a
little like Peyton Manning was for the Heisman. Mercer must learn to
create his own shot, and a high percentage one at that. Right now, he is
putting up pretty impressive numbers operating primarily on the break and
off screens. With his athletism and sharp shooting, I hope he will
continue to develop the way he has so far. The guy has come a long way
from the preseason. As for the All-Rook team, I like your picks ... Danny

On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Casey Soulies wrote:

> 
> 
>         I know its very very early but, I've got some time on my hands.  This is
> how I see the awards going for rookies.  
> Rookie Game MVP: Ron Mercer, Celtics
> All rookie 1st team: PG Brevin Knight SG Bobby Jackson SF Ron Mercer PF
> Keith Van Horn C Tim Duncan.
> Rookie Of the Year:  Ron Mercer or Tim Duncan.
> 
>         Mercer should start to take more, and more shots as the season goes on and
> he gets more comfortable.  Have you seen some of the Jordan like shots he's
> making.
> 
> What do you think???  
> 
> 

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:48:58 -0500
From: "dan.p" <dan.p@MCI2000.com>
Subject: The Big Zero and Marcu$ Camby

>Anyways, if anybody watched the game tonight, you were probably pleased to
>hear Heinsohn(sp) and Gorman really lash into Camby and Miller all night
>long. The Raps announcer would call Miller the "Big O" when he was
shooting
>his foul shots. This got Heinsohn mad and he said that there is only
really
>one "Big O". And that is Oscar Robertson. After that, he started calling
>Miller, the "Big Zero" from there on.

Yeah, that was pretty funny.  It's no wonder kids today think the NBA began
with Michael Jordan when there's crap like the Toronto announcer.  It's so
totally phony when they try and act all excited about a game as ugly as 
last night's, give "cute" nicknames to their players (no matter how
inappropriate), and howl the players names after they execute the simpling
of plays.  TraceeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeey McGraaaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaddy!

Can't you just see the marketers:

Marketer One:  We need a nickname for Oliver Miller.

Marketer Two:  Well, he's kinda fat.  And his last name starts with 'O'.
               Let's call him "The Big 'O'"!

Marketer One:  Great!  Let's go to lunch...

>And they would constantly rag on
>Miller about his weight. Heinsohn once said "I wonder how much he'd
balloon
>up to if he wasn't in shape?". As you all know, he's not in any shape at
all
>and Tommy was just making Miller look like a fool. And Gorman agreed and
>would add his own jokes.

Given the inane comments he made, I thought they went pretty light.  There
are certainly a lot more announcers who would have have a field day with
these two buffoons.

>As for Camby, Heinsohn said something along this
>line... "I don't believe Camby puts much thought into his game. This guy
is
>definitely all about money. He will never be a dominant force in the
league
>and will just cash in on his so called popularity." Well, I'd like to hear
>from all the fans if you saw this and you liked how Heinsohn and Gorman
took
>up for our crew tonight.

It's refreshing to hear announcers talk critcally about NBA players and not
sugarcoat everything.  Rick Barry has a wonderful book he puts out every
year (I think there's a co-author, but I don't remember the name) and he 
reviews every player with a very critcal eye.  I have no idea if Tommy has
any inside information that would lead to his comments - he's certainly
known to make the occasional outrageous statement or two (he makes Dontae
Jones sound like the next Michael Jordan) but Camby hasn't shown a heck of
a
lot in his short time in the league; I'd say he's crusing on his
reputation at this point.  There's a show, Celtic Weekly I think, that's on
Sportschannel and hosted by Mike Gorman.  There's a nice piece each week
called the Back Page by someone whose name I forget, but the most recent
one
was about how satisfying the Washington win was because it was against
players
who are so easy to hate (particularly Chris Webber).  I'd say this win 
qualifies.

D Parker

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:23:38 -0500
From: Steve Huffman <stevhuff@eastky.net>
Subject: NBA on Satellite TV

Friday, December 19th
- ---------------------

All times eastern.

NBA on Satellite TV tonight
- -------------------------------
Detroit at Indiana, 7 p.m. - F1-13s, G9-22
Charlotte at Washington, 7 p.m. - G3-21
LA Lakers at Atlanta, 7:30 p.m. - G9-2
New York at Cleveland, 7:30 p.m. - F4-6s, W1-4s
Miami at Philadelphia, 8 p.m F1-24s,. - G5-17s, **** TNT ****
Milwaukee at Toronto, 8 p.m. - TSN
Sacramento at Houston, 8:30 p.m. - F1-10s, T5-16
Vancouver at Portland, 10 p.m. - No scheduled television


*** Sports on Satellite from The Sports Network ***

Go to the following web site for tonight's NHL games,
and tonight's college basketball games.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=news/satellite.htm

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 14:39:04 -0500
From: Steve Huffman <stevhuff@eastky.net>
Subject: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest

New York, NY  -  The  National  Basketball  Association  has
announced  a  change  for the 1998 NBA All-Star Game at Madison Square
Garden, as the Nestle Crunch All-Star 2ball  event  will  replace  the
Slam Dunk Contest.

The Dunk Contest had been a part of All-Star weekend since  1983,
but  had been getting a bad rap for its lackluster outings in the last
few seasons. Most critics felt all the good dunks  have  already  been
done and the exhibition was getting stale.

"Nestle Crunch All-Star 2ball is an ideal format for NBA and WNBA
players  to  compete  together in a major event, and fans in the arena
and at home will find  it  to  be  an  exiting  addition  to  All-Star
Saturday  Night,"  said  NBA  Deputy  Commissioner  Russ Granik. "This
doesn't mean the Slam Dunk Contest is gone forever, but we felt it was
time to try something new."

The 2ball will be the first All-Star event to  feature  both  NBA
and  WNBA  players.  It will be a one-minute competition that requires
the core basketball skills  of  shooting,  rebounding,  dribbling  and
passing.

Nestle Crunch All-Star 2ball is played by two-player teams  on  a
half-court  marked with six specific shooting locations that are worth
different point amounts based on difficulty. Teams  will  include  one
player from a city's NBA team and one player from the same city's WNBA
club.

Three teams have already  confirmed  their  participation;  Clyde
Drexler  of  the  Houston  Rockets  and  Cynthia Cooper of the Houston
Comets; Allan Houston of the New York Knicks and Rebecca Lobo  of  the
New  York  Liberty;  and  Mitch  Richmond  of the Sacramento Kings and
Ruthie Bolton-Holifield of the Sacramento Monarchs.

The winning team will split $25,000, the second-place tandem will
take  home $10,000, and the third-place duo will win $5,000. All other
teams will earn $2,000.

The 2ball event will be followed by the Schick Rookie  Game,  the
Million  Dollar  Shot  and  the AT&T Shootout on Saturday, February 7,
with the All-Star Game taking place the following day.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:29:52 -0500
From: Matt Healy <mhealy@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Subject: Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest

>New York, NY  -  The  National  Basketball  Association  has
>announced  a  change  for the 1998 NBA All-Star Game at Madison Square
>Garden, as the Nestle Crunch All-Star 2ball  event  will  replace  the
>Slam Dunk Contest.

Getting rid of the dunk contest is long overdue.  That has been boring for
years.  I'd rather have seen either a one on one contest, or better, 2 on 2
with two players from the same team.  That second one seems like it would
be a lot of fun--Jordan/Pippen (maybe not this year), Stockton/Malone,
Barkley/Drexler.  Who could the Celtics send?  Walker and...?  Mercer?
Anyway, I can certainly understand the NBA's desire to promote their
women's league, and this is a great opportunity for them to do that.

Matt

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:55:08 -0500
From: Joe Pacuska <jpacuska@epix.net>
Subject: Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest

I'm with you, Matt.  Good riddance to the dunk contest.

The 2ball format sounds interesting, but I would guarantee you a lot more
excitement and interest if they instituted 2-on-2 games, especially if they
left the makeup of the two-man teams to the players.  The pairings and
challenges are the food of dreams!

Joe.

Matt Healy wrote:

> >New York, NY  -  The  National  Basketball  Association  has
> >announced  a  change  for the 1998 NBA All-Star Game at Madison Square
> >Garden, as the Nestle Crunch All-Star 2ball  event  will  replace  the
> >Slam Dunk Contest.
>
> Getting rid of the dunk contest is long overdue.  That has been boring for
> years.  I'd rather have seen either a one on one contest, or better, 2 on 2
> with two players from the same team.  That second one seems like it would
> be a lot of fun--Jordan/Pippen (maybe not this year), Stockton/Malone,
> Barkley/Drexler.  Who could the Celtics send?  Walker and...?  Mercer?
> Anyway, I can certainly understand the NBA's desire to promote their
> women's league, and this is a great opportunity for them to do that.
>
> Matt

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:18:59 -0500
From: Theresa Lee <tjoyce@mit.edu>
Subject: Two-on-two pairings

>The 2ball format sounds interesting, but I would guarantee you a lot more
>excitement and interest if they instituted 2-on-2 games, especially if they
>left the makeup of the two-man teams to the players.

Are you saying that they could pick any NBA player to be paired with?  That
WOULD be interesting. Can you imagine the pairings...the trade talks if the
tandem did well!

If you were Michael Jordan, who would you choose? (the player has to be
healthy and an NBA or WNBA player).

TJL


tjoyce@mit.edu

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:41:52 -0500
From: Steve Huffman <stevhuff@eastky.net>
Subject: Duncan compared to Bird...

Duncan's dunkin' the rookie competition

                 By Mike Monroe

                 Special to ESPN SportsZone



So Keith Van Horn scored 32 points in three quarters against the Denver
Nuggets
in The Meadowlands last week. Don't even think of suggesting Van Horn
might
wind up this season's rookie of the year.

I've witnessed this year's winner four times already, and each time I
see him, he
shows me something new, another revelation. The envelope, please ...
call off the
contest right now. Your 1997-98 NBA Rookie of the Year is Tim Duncan.

And stop comparing Duncan to Brad
Daugherty. It sells him short. There may
be no good comparison for the Spurs'
super-rookie. If you insist on such
meaningless exercises, though, there is
only one player who ever had the
combination of size, skills, grace and
court sense young Mr. Duncan has
evinced thus far in his NBA career. He
now coaches the Indiana Pacers.

Yikes! Did Monroe really call Duncan
the new Larry Bird? Hello. What I really
mean is this: Duncan defies comparison,
but he shows the same combination of
skills that will land Bird in the Hall of
Fame when this year's class of inductees
is announced in a month or two.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:17:27 -0500
From: cmcarthur@kkya.com
Subject: Two-on-two pairings -Reply

At first I was tempted to say Grant Hill, but in a two on two game, having
a big guy is important.  I will say Karl Malone.

Now find a tandem that could beat that pair.

- -- Hill and Garnett?

Of course we all know that the all time greatest two on two matchup
from the same teams would be Bird/McHale v. Magic/Jabbar.


>>> "tjoyce@mit.edu" 12/19/97 03:52pm >>>
If you were Michael Jordan, who would you choose? (the player has to
be
healthy and an NBA or WNBA player).

TJL


tjoyce@mit.edu

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:25:27 -0700
From: "Michael J. King Sr." <kingpin@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest

Yes the dunk contest lost its luster but I do believe they could have
dusted it off and made it marquee once again. First make sure the top
stars were participants as they were in the first years, add $$ bonuses
for degrees of difficulties, height above the rim and originality etc.
etc. Have a designated charity connected to each player and make them
the recipients of all the moolah earned by the contestants.This is a
stretch but even include a retired (In condition!!) ex NBA Dunker to
participate to generate the "underdog lover" interest for one have zero
interest in the WNBA and I honestly tried last year by going to a few
games of the home team "Phoenix Mercury" and watching some TV tilts
.but, the game is boring and mind numbingly slow to me.I applaud them
though as it is brilliant advertising using this crossover and could
bring in some new fans but it will also turn off the "traditionalist
types" that just hate the idea of 'Girl Basketball'.Local chat has KJ
and Michele Timms as the Phoenix team FYI. I would love to see a one on
one or two on two contest with players from either teams or conferences.
The possibilities are endless but you know money talks and B.S. walks!!
Just my thoughts and YMMV!! Later.Mike

Joe Pacuska wrote:
> 
> I'm with you, Matt.  Good riddance to the dunk contest.
> 
> The 2ball format sounds interesting, but I would guarantee you a lot more
> excitement and interest if they instituted 2-on-2 games, especially if they
> left the makeup of the two-man teams to the players.  The pairings and
> challenges are the food of dreams!
> 
> Joe.
> 
> Matt Healy wrote:
> 
> > >New York, NY  -  The  National  Basketball  Association  has
> > >announced  a  change  for the 1998 NBA All-Star Game at Madison Square
> > >Garden, as the Nestle Crunch All-Star 2ball  event  will  replace  the
> > >Slam Dunk Contest.
> >
> > Getting rid of the dunk contest is long overdue.  That has been boring for
> > years.  I'd rather have seen either a one on one contest, or better, 2 on 2
> > with two players from the same team.  That second one seems like it would
> > be a lot of fun--Jordan/Pippen (maybe not this year), Stockton/Malone,
> > Barkley/Drexler.  Who could the Celtics send?  Walker and...?  Mercer?
> > Anyway, I can certainly understand the NBA's desire to promote their
> > women's league, and this is a great opportunity for them to do that.
> >
> > Matt

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:39:52 -0500
From: Watrat <watrat@pobox.com>
Subject: Pervis on Channel 68?

Good evening,
    Have a quick question for everyone.  Yesterday on WEEI Bruce Stearns
was talking about his Channel 68 show that night and his guest being
Pervis..was wondering if anyone saw it and what they thought..and also if
anyone happened to tape it?
        Thanks and Merry Christmas

Tom

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:42:59 -0500
From: Mike Dynon <mdynon@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest

> 
> Nestle Crunch All-Star 2ball is played by two-player teams  on  a
> half-court  marked with six specific shooting locations that are worth
> different point amounts based on difficulty. Teams  will  include  one
> player from a city's NBA team and one player from the same city's WNBA
> club.
> 
This will be a good change from the dunk contest, but it won't allow any
Celtics to participate, which is unfortunate.  Mercer and Billups will
just have to dominate the rookie game to compensate!

Mike Dynon

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:49:00 EST
From: JoshFarber <JoshFarber@aol.com>
Subject: Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest

I heard something about the two players on the same team have to be from the
same town.

There isn't a WNBA team in Boston, so how could they send someone???

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 19:06:05 -0500
From: Matt Healy <mhealy@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Subject: Re: Two-on-two pairings -Reply

>At first I was tempted to say Grant Hill, but in a two on two game, having
>a big guy is important.  I will say Karl Malone.
>
>Now find a tandem that could beat that pair.
>
>-- Hill and Garnett?

I'd prefer to see teams of two from the same team.  They would have time
together to mess around and work on any plays or something they would do.
It would be fun, wouldn't it?

Matt

By the way, if I were Jordan, or any player, I'd probably want a big man on
my team first.  The great centers are pretty much unstoppable one-on-one,
and there is no chance to double team in 2 on 2.  Go with Robinson or Shaq
(ugh).

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 19:40:16 -0500
From: Matt Healy <mhealy@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Subject: Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest

>Yes the dunk contest lost its luster but I do believe they could have
>dusted it off and made it marquee once again. First make sure the top
>stars were participants as they were in the first years, add $$ bonuses
>for degrees of difficulties, height above the rim and originality etc.
>etc. Have a designated charity connected to each player and make them
>the recipients of all the moolah earned by the contestants.This is a
>stretch but even include a retired (In condition!!) ex NBA Dunker to
>participate to generate the "underdog lover" interest


I don't think it would be dusting it off, more like digging it out of a
pit, standing it up, and scraping the dirt off.  That contest was so old
and unoriginal it was sad.  The dunk contest came back in the early 80's,
with Dr. J doing the foul line leap.  Then we had Jordan and Dominique
doing things we'd NEVER seen before.  It was awesome and exciting.  Nobody
knew what to expect next.  Now, there is NOTHING original left.  Its all
been done before.  In addition, the NBA is so much showboat, I feel like a
dunk contest is unnecessary anyway.  More money?  Like I'm going to have
interest in watching guys with $100 MILLION CONTRACTS win a relative amount
of change?  I don't mean to sound harsh, and I appreciate your ideas to
revive a dying tradition, but just let it go.  That dog had its day, and
its time to put it to sleep.

Matt

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:14:07 -0500
From: Dorine Pratt <norine@sover.net>
Subject: ANNOUNCER'S REMARKS

I believe what Tommy said about Camby was that his heart isn't really in
the game, he doesn't really love to play, and with him it's the money he
likes.  As for the remarks made by both Tommy and Mike, I thought it was
refreshing for them to come down on those two dolts the way they did.
It seemed to have really made them angry - Mike especially surprised me,
he hardly ever says anything derogatory about anyone.  I was really
surprised, but it was nice to see how loyal they are to this bunch of
young players.
Dorine

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:18:44 EST
From: DJessen33 <DJessen33@aol.com>
Subject: Walker

The thing that can improve the Celtics the most right now is one simple thing.
If Walker will just give the ball to the point guard (if the point guard is
ahead of him) and fill the lane, I think we would have 6-10 points a game
more. Here's the problem: I think Walker wants to be Magic and make the play.
That's fine except if the point guard is ahead of you, you got to get him the
ball. If he doesn't get the ball, they tend to trail behind and pull up at the
3 point line. Why? Because if they fill the lane, they will probably get their
shot blocked or their clock cleaned. THEY CAN'T FINISH  but its not their job
to. That's Walker's job. This happens all the time but I was the most
irritated when (not passing to an open Mercer in an earlier game was even
worse) Walker led the break on a 3 on 1 and Edney filled the lane, Walker
passed to him on the right and Edney got murdered. He made the two free throws
but if Walker had passed to Edney earlier and cut behind him like you're
supposed to, Walker could have gotten the ball back and powered for a jam and
a possible 3 point play. It's fundamental basketball.  You play the
percentages....

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:42:25 -0500
From: bocelts@scsn.net (R. Bentz Kirby)
Subject: pickem

> If you were Michael Jordan, who would you choose? (the player has to be
> healthy and an NBA or WNBA player).
>
> TJL
>
Well, I can't pick me.  Will Scotty be ready by then?  If not, I'll take
Horace Grant.


- --

Peace,

Bentz
bocelts@scsn.net
http://www.scsn.net/users/sclaw

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:58:31 -0500
From: bocelts@scsn.net (R. Bentz Kirby)
Subject: two ball

I quit watching the dunk contest about 5 years ago.  I will not bother
with two ball.  A flagrant carnivel act.  The NBA gets more like rasslin
every day.  I would like to see walking (traveling) actually called, and
to call fouls inside, kinda like the college game is refed.  You know,
bring back basketball skills, like being able to shoot, pass, and
dribble without carrying the ball.

- --

Peace,

Bentz
bocelts@scsn.net
http://www.scsn.net/users/sclaw

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:42:27 -0700
From: "Michael J. King Sr." <kingpin@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest

That is why I said to designate a charity even if just for P.R.
purposes. While I do admit I won't lose any sleep over the Dunk contest
being replaced, the replacement IMO is even more of a snoozer! What I
guess I was trying to say was at least come up with a BETTER idea!
Evidently the NBA thinks it has and they get millions from
sponser/partner Nestles Crunch! So play taps for the Slam Dunk contest
and reville for the 2 Ball!! Just FYI i didn't find your comments at all
harsh good sir.Later.Mike

Matt Healy wrote:
> 
> >Yes the dunk contest lost its luster but I do believe they could have
> >dusted it off and made it marquee once again. First make sure the top
> >stars were participants as they were in the first years, add $$ bonuses
> >for degrees of difficulties, height above the rim and originality etc.
> >etc. Have a designated charity connected to each player and make them
> >the recipients of all the moolah earned by the contestants.This is a
> >stretch but even include a retired (In condition!!) ex NBA Dunker to
> >participate to generate the "underdog lover" interest
> 
> I don't think it would be dusting it off, more like digging it out of a
> pit, standing it up, and scraping the dirt off.  That contest was so old
> and unoriginal it was sad.  The dunk contest came back in the early 80's,
> with Dr. J doing the foul line leap.  Then we had Jordan and Dominique
> doing things we'd NEVER seen before.  It was awesome and exciting.  Nobody
> knew what to expect next.  Now, there is NOTHING original left.  Its all
> been done before.  In addition, the NBA is so much showboat, I feel like a
> dunk contest is unnecessary anyway.  More money?  Like I'm going to have
> interest in watching guys with $100 MILLION CONTRACTS win a relative amount
> of change?  I don't mean to sound harsh, and I appreciate your ideas to
> revive a dying tradition, but just let it go.  That dog had its day, and
> its time to put it to sleep.
> 
> Matt

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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 08:14:04 -0600
From: gh18@juno.com (Gregory Hurst)
Subject: Re: NBA Dumps Dunk Contest

I say bring back the old one on one games to determine the best player in
the N.B.A.  

Greg



>New York, NY  -  The  National  Basketball  Association  has
>announced  a  change  for the 1998 NBA All-Star Game at Madison Square
>Garden, as the Nestle Crunch All-Star 2ball  event  will  replace  the
>Slam Dunk Contest.

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